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A lot of embedded apps use modern variants of Forth, but in terms of modern clusters of computers and supercomputers, the processing capacity is so high these days that it doesn't matter so much what compiled language you use. If you're using a 25-year-old Commodore Amiga, then fair enough. :lol


so this point to the IBM 5100... (1)

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Description

The IBM 5100 is based on a 16-bit processor module called PALM (Put All Logic in Microcode). The IBM 5100 Maintenance Information Manual also referred to the PALM module as the controller. PALM can directly address 64 KB of memory. Some configurations of the IBM 5100 had Executable ROS (ROM) and RAM memory totaling more than 64 KB, so a simple bank switching scheme was used. The actual APL and/or BASIC interpreters were stored in a separate Language ROS address space which the PALM treats as a peripheral device.
[edit] The portable computer

A single integrated unit provided the keyboard, five-inch CRT display, tape drive, processor, several hundred kilobytes of read only memory containing system software, and up to 64 KB of random access memory. It was the size of a small suitcase, weighed about 55 lb (25 kg), and could be transported in an optional carrying case, hence the "portable" moniker.

While the IBM 5100 seems large today, in 1975 it was an amazing technical accomplishment to package a complete computer with a large amount of ROM and RAM, CRT display, and a tape drive into a machine that small; it was two more years before the similar Commodore PET was released. Earlier desktop computers of approximately the same size, such as the HP 9830, did not include a CRT nor nearly as much memory. An equivalent late-1960's IBM computer would have been nearly as large as two desks and would have weighed about half a ton.


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Post A funny diversion; "The economy is so bad that..."
The economy is so bad that:
I got a pre-declined credit card in the mail.

I ordered a burger at McDonald's and the kid behind the counter asked, "Can you afford fries with that?"

CEO's are now playing miniature golf.

If the bank returns your check marked "Insufficient Funds," you call them and ask if they meant you or them.

Hot Wheels and Matchbox stocks are trading higher than GM.

McDonald's is selling the 1/4 ouncer.

Parents in Beverly Hills fired their nannies and learned their children's names.

A truckload of Americans was caught sneaking into Mexico .

Dick cheney took his stockbroker hunting.

Motel Six won't leave the light on anymore.

The Mafia is laying off judges.

Exxon-Mobil laid off 25 Congressmen.

Congress says they are looking into this Bernard Madoff scandal. Oh Great!! The guy who made $50 Billion disappear is being investigated by the people who made $15 Trillion disappear!

And, finally...
I was so depressed last night thinking about the economy, wars, jobs, my savings, Social Security, retirement funds, etc.,I called the Suicide Lifeline. I got a call center in Pakistan, and when I told them I was suicidal, they got all excited, and asked if I could drive a truck!

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Post Re: SOHO confusion
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recall15 wrote:
Hello Steph:

Why not all squares are black? or why not all squares are white? but 1 white and the remaining black?

Pointing to the one that is near the Sun, please see above the Images of Soho and the Near Object that appear near the Sun in the 3 images... @ Sun Jan 24, 2010 2:57 pm post


Not sure if this explains the black & white 'block outs' and anomalous white shapes....(from website on interpreting images). Could there be a mundane and not sinister explanation after all?



As in Occam's Razor, the "simplest explanation seems to be the best one". While there may be other reasons for the black and white blocks, the simplest explanation is that NASA is putting them there. If one accepts the premise that NASA's first and foremost function is to locate and track the speed, direction, movement and effects of Nibiru for the benefit of the elite, while simultaneously ridiculing the notion for the rest of the hoi poloi, then the simplest explanation is that they are the ones blocking out any visual confirmation that 'IT' is now regularly within the view of their space cameras and monitoring devices. You can ask yourself "why are these examples of 'pixelization' etc only happening now, and not before"? Without giving you data to support your theory, you could argue that perhaps the equipment may be degrading with time, etc etc. Again, that may be true, but again, Occam's Razor would lead us to conclude that NASA is attempting to obscure the view of Nibiru as it's coming in on the final approach. I predict the cameras will be taken off-line soon, with the explanation that they are beginning to "malfunction" due to age and/or especially a claim of "heightened solar activity".

Here's a video that was made of SOHO images on DEC 7:



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Post Re: The Golden Thread, Volume 2010 5.2
a question during the coming week:

if any of you start dreaming about a Tsunami, Waves or a lot of Water
... Please let me now.

Thank you

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Post Re: ST in BG, SOHO Compilation
Here's an individual who began having "visions" in March 2006 of the impending earthquake due to take place in the New Madrid Seismic Zone (nomenclature concocted by the USGS themselves), known as "ST (for Star Traveller) in BG" (not sure what BG stands for). Here's a sample of his "visions", which got worse as they went along into April, culminating in what could only be the poleshift:

ST in BG, on GLP in April, 2006, wrote:
Greetings:

What Follows Is A Edited Version ... Of A Number Of "Visions" I Have Had
Recently !! ... These Have Been Through Listening To Recently Re-Acquired Recordings (That I Played While "Growing Up") & Chatting To A Friend (GZ) !! ... *Also Included Are Other "Visions, Remembrances, Ect. ... That May Relate To These !!

**Note: All Times Are: Eastern Standard Time (EST) Unless So Noted !!

May These "Visions" Help You In Your Journey Ahead !!

ST In BG
_______________________________________

**Visions Of: Monday: March 20, 2006
_______________________________________

(7:53 PM) :

*I Remember Parts Of A Dream !! ... (*From A Nap That Day !!) ... Was
Somewhere ?? ... The City ?? Was Flooded ... Lots Of Rain & Strong Wind ... A Hurricane ?? ... Watching People Wading Through Water To Their Waist & Above !! ... Shouting To Attempt To Be Heard Above The Storm ?? ... Hear Others Shouting Too ... Could Not Make Out What They Were Saying ?? ... Seems Like Midwest U.S. ... Or Perhaps Even Mississippi/Missouri Area ??

(7:54 PM) :

Seems Like The Wind, Rain, Ground Shaking ... All These Things Happening At Once !! ... Something That Has Not Yet Happened ... But Will Happen !!

(8:13 PM) :

The Scene Was Not Only Wind & Rain ... But Ground Shaking Too !! ...
Everything Was Being Turned ... Topsy Turvey !!

(8:22 PM) :

It Was Very "Different" !! ... Different In That It Seemed That All The Elements/Forces Were Involved !!... Not Just Certain Ones !! ... *Oh Yes ... There Was That Time When I Had A Vision Of Being At The Apartment ... The Stairway Had Given Way ?? ... And The Outside Was Flooded !!

(8:24 PM) :

A Vision I Once Saw ... Where It Seemed I Went Out To The Country By Taxi Cab ?? ... My Terran Father Was Driving ?? ... Very Strange ?? ... Was Seeing The Side Country Roads Flooded Away ... And Vehicles Were Washed Out Into The Fields & Stuck There !!

GZ (8:36 PM) :

But why flooded? I thought there would be a volcano at your
place?

(8:42 PM) :

Yes Indeed !! ... Why Flooded ?? ... Well I Am Not Sure ?? ... As
To The Volcano ... This I Was Shown By My Zeta Guide !! ... The Other
Visions I Did Not Sense That I Was Being Shown Visions By My Zeta Guides Or Others ?? ... But Seemed I Was There ... Just The Same !!

(8:55 PM) :

*I Don't Know About All These Different
Visions !! ... As It Seems Every So Often I "Phase/Time Shift" Where I Am
Somewhere Else (Sometimes I Have No Clue Whatsoever ??) ... Usually I Am
Given No Clues As To When This Will Happen ??

(9:13 PM) :

There Is Truth In The Visions ... A Gift For "Far Visions" I Suspect ?? ...
Where At Times I Can Just "Phase Out" Of This "Reality" & Be Somewhere
Completely Different !! ... I Did This Where I Worked Too !! ... Especially
When I Am Tired Out ... I Can Slip Over To "Another Reality" & Interact
There !! ... *Yes It Is Confusing To Me As Well !! ... I Have Found Though
The Best Thing To Do ... Is Just Act As "An Observer" ... And Then Perhaps
Attempt Interpretation Later !!

(9:33 PM) :

When It Happens ... It Happens !! ... Like Last Night !! ... Rather Then
"Forcing The Issue" ... I Just Take Things As They Come !! ... Sometimes
The Answer Is ... Not To Try !! ... To Just Let It Happen !! ... Go With
It !! ... Set The Analytical Side Aside ... And Just Experience !!
_______________________________________

**Visions Of: Thursday: March 23, 2006
_______________________________________

(3:24 PM) :

Oh Yes I Already Have (Had Visions Today)!! ... Seen Tecumseh
(English Spelling) ... The Shawnee Chief/Leader/Statesman/Visionary !!

(3:31 PM) :

I See Him In My Mind !! ... & It Is Interesting !! ... As Today I Spoke To A Young Woman & Told Her About Tecumseh's Vision Of The 1811 New Madrid Fault Earthquake (Reelfoot Fault) !!

(3:35 PM) :

Tecumseh Spoke To Me ... Calling Me Brother !! ... Feel He Wants To Talk To
Me ... Tell Me Information !!

(3:37 PM) :

I See Him With A Blue Feather In His Hair !!

**Note: Excerpt From Posting/Response To: Truth2 (3/24/2006 10:18 AM ) ...
Posted To: Godlike Productions Forum

**My Native Brother "Tecumseh" (English Spelling) ... (In His Time ...
He Was A Shawnee Tribal Chief, Warrior, Statesman/Speaker For His & Other Native Peoples !! ... & A Visionary !! (Amongst Many Other Things !!) ... Appeared Yesterday In My Mind !! ... At First He Appeared In The "Look"... Of The Several Painting/Portraits ... Which I Have Seen !! ... Then The "Painting" Moved & This Shifted To A "Live & In Person" View Of Him !!

**Of His "Appearance" ... I Had The Thought/Understanding ... That He
Wished To Speak With Me !! ... Specifically About The Termed: "New Madrid (Missouri) (Earthquake) Fault" (Actually The Reelfoot Fault) ... *He Was The One Who Predicted The December 1811 "New Madrid (Fault) Earthquake !! ... *Panther Across The Sky & The New Madrid Earthquake [link]
[link to www.ratical.com]

** I Had "The Impression" That He Came To Tell Me ... To Talk To Me/Foreworn Me About "New Madrid" & It's Impending Reactivation !! ... He Called Me "Brother" (Which Is A High Respect & Honorance Of One That Is Considered Of ... The Same Spiritual Orientation ... A Possible "Physical Connection" ... Of The Same Tribe/Family !! ... Connected To &
Respects The Planet ... Respects All Other "Tribes" As Well !! ... *Many
Ideas All Conveyed Through One Word !!

**I Felt Too ... That He Was Asked/Elected & Willingly Volunteered ... To Be A Spokesperson/Messenger To Me ... For Knowledge/Information About This "Event To Me" !! ... Do To His Abilities/Knowledge Of "What Was To
Come" ... & That I Have Strong "Shawnee Roots" !!
_______________________________________

**Visions Of: Saturday : March 25, 2006
_______________________________________

(9:59 PM) :

Words Coming Into My Mind ... Repeating 3 Times .... Reelfoot Fault ... New Madrid ... Be Aware ... Soon ... Be Prepared ... Get Ready ... Eruption .. Quake ... Upheaval ....

(10:10 PM) :

Now Seeing A Termed "Bullet Train" ... Floating On The Rails ... Magnetic
Drive !!

(10:11 PM) :

Multi-Colored Air Vessels That Have Different Shapes !! ... Oh Vimanas
!!! ... Wonderful !!!!

(10:13 PM) :

At First I Thought That These Were Balloons !! ... As There Was A Balloon
Overlay ?? ... Balloon Races ?? ... How Does This Relate ?? ... Very Large & Colorful Balloons In The Air ... Some Sort Of Celebration !!

(10:25 PM) :

Hmmmm ??? ... This May Relate To A Vision Of The Activation Of The Reelfoot Fault !! ... As A Poster Remarked About Balloons In The Air !! ... I'm Now Up In The Air With The Balloons !! ... Seeing The Land Other Balloons ... All Different With Bright & Beautiful Colors !! ... The Land Below ... Oh No !!... It's Splitting Open !! ... Ground Shaking Violently !!! ... Buildings,
Homes Collapsing !! ... Falling Into The Cracks !! ... Fires Everywhere ...
Seeing Smaller Objects ... People ??? ... Running Around Everywhere ... In A Panic/Madness !! ... Thoughts That Come Are .... I Feel So Sorry For Those
Below ... But Am Glad I Am Up Here ... Rather Then Down There !!

GZ (10:26 PM) :

Oh my..... that's terrible!!!

(10:27 PM) :

Yes Indeed !!! ... From What I Am Seeing ... Most Devastating ... Very
Terrible !!

GZ (10:29 PM) :

The poor people... I hope it will be at least fast...

(10:29 PM) :

Yes Indeed !!! ... As Do I !! ... As This Will Be Major !!!

GZ (10:32 PM) :

I'm very curious when this will happen...

(10:32 PM) :

The Thought Was First Kansas ... Then Corrected ... No Not Kansas (State)
... St. Louis, Missouri ... Extending To Kansas (State) & Beyond !! ...
*Further Correction ... Your Thought Was Misunderstood ... To The
Abbreviation ... It Was Meant ... Kansas City, Missouri ... Which Will Be
Heavily Involved !!

...

(10:54 PM) :

Yes Indeed !!! ... A Very Real Possibility !! ... As The Time Frame Of The Maiden Voyage Of The Titanic ... Sticks In My Mind !! ... Which Was From April 10th 1912 - To When It Went Down On ... April 15th 1912 !!

(11:38 PM) :

The Basic Ideas (Being Presented) Are ... Mass Passenger Transportation ... Going Somewhere !! ... Leaving ... Going On A Trip !!

(11:41 PM) :

When I See These Things ... (*Note: I Have Been Having Lots Of Different
"Train Visions" Of All Shapes & Styles ... From Many Different "Time
Periods") ... It Is Not Necessarily The Train(s) Or Forms Of Transportation Themselves ... But The Ideas Of Which They Represent !! ...
Even The Colors Of The Train(s) ... Colors/Style Of The Clothing Can
Speaking Volumes !! ... So One Needs To Be Aware Of "Symbology" Too !! ....
But Of Course Everything Could Be Literal ... Or A Mix Of Literal &
Symbology To Get The Thought Across !!
_______________________________________

**Visions Of: Sunday : March 26, 2006
_______________________________________

(6:43 PM) :

Curious !! ... An Older Fashioned Bus ... A Train .... A Double Decker Bus ... With Whitish Tops ... All Having Small Satellite Dishes Mounted On Top !!

(6:46 PM) :

A VW Type Bus ... An Older Type Foreign Bus ... A Double Decker Bus
... A Train ... A With Whitish Tops ... And Either A Singular Or Multi Array Of Small Satellite Dishes On Top !!

(6:47 PM) :

Then A Thought To Space ... Monitoring Incoming ... Keeping In Touch ...
Keeping Alert !!

(6:48 PM) :

This Is Definitely Space Related !! ... As I Am Seeing Larger Antenna Arrays Moving About !! ... Different Locations !!

(6:51 PM) :

Hmmm .... Very Curious Indeed !!! .... Many Systems Are Being Used ...
Hubble, Spitzer ?? Telescopes ... Infrared & Other Sensing Equipment !!

(6:55 PM) :

Thought Patterns Too !! ... Which Maybe Coming Back From This Morning ???

(7:02 PM) :

Thought Patterns Such As ... Should We Tell Them ?? ... Arguments ... One
Saying What Good Would This Do ?? ... This Would Only Cause (Worldwide)
Panic !! ... To Which The Listener Reluctantly Agrees !! ... Gentleman It's Time (Or Soon Will Be Time ??) To Go (Underground ??) To Our Assigned
(Survival) Areas !!

(7:03 PM) :

Then Was Seeing A Clip From Original Star Trek Episode: The Paradise
Syndrome ... Out In Space & Seeing This Huge Asteroid !!

(7:06 PM) :

Then This Switched To Another Episode Where The Same Setting Was Used ...
This Time It Was The Asteroid Image & The Thought Comes .... Asteroid/Ship-Planet (As The Beings On The Planet Can Be Referred To Being
As "If On A Ship" That Is Independently (Different Orbital Path) Then Is Understood) Through Space !!

(7:10 PM) :

Also The Thought Comes ... That Military Activation/Activity (Re: To Attack Iran) Is To Draw The World's Attention Away From This/These Thing Incoming !! ... These People In Their Minds Are Expendable For Their Purposes !! ... While Those "In The Know" Will Be Headed To Their Shelters !!

(7:16 PM) :

This Has Been Known For Some Linear Time !! ... Hubble Has Been Tracking ... Also Other Things Launched & Put Online ... Resources Turned Over ... To Find Out As Much As Possible ... Pending Arrival Time ... Computations, Ect. ... And & All Information !! ... Hubble Not Out Of Commission (Per Stories) But Being "Put To Use" !!

(7:24 PM) :

Comets/Asteroids ... Many Shapes Sizes !! ... Most Being Either "Altered Off Course" Or Neutralized/Made A Non-Threat (Smaller So As To Do Not Substantial Harm !!) ... However Planetoid Cannot/Will Not Be Effected ...
Or Allowed To Be Effected By "Outside Influences" ... As (Am Hearing)
"Divine Guidance/Rule" (Translated: This Planetoid Has A Relationship To
Many Things/Connects To Many Things ... One May State A "Catalyst" !!)
_______________________________________

**Visions Of: Monday : March 27, 2006
_______________________________________

(1:32 PM) :

Strange ? ... Surveillance Planes !! ... Huge White One With Multi
Dishes/Antennas !! ... Then A Cloaked Fighter !! ... Large Ghost Image Over
Solid Image Inside !!

(1:45 PM) :

Now A Midwest Earthquake ... Oh Wow !! ... A Train Getting Caught In This
!!!!

(1:46 PM) :

Modern Train Too !! ... Believe An Amtrak !! ... Or Something Very Similar !!

(1:49 PM) :

The Ground Shakes ... Rails Twist/Buckle Underneath !! ... Train Is Falling To The Left Side ... A Huge Wide Crevice !! ... People Screaming ... While The Train Falls Sideways ... People Falling Out ... Train Being Caught Sideways At An Angle !! ... Many Dead & Dying !!

(1:52 PM) :

That's What I Am Seeing !! ... This I Am Told Is A Small Part Of New Madrid
... When It Activates !! ... As A Large Fissure Will Cut Across The Land ... I Am Hearing Many States ??

{cont'd.}


http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum ... 216913/pg1

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For those that don't have the time or inclination to put together the many SOHO images that allegedly show Nibiru/Planet X, here's a

COMPILATION of Nibiru/Planet X SOHO IMAGES


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Post Re: The Golden Thread, Volume 2010 5.2
Lynnwood wrote:
I know a guy that works for EG&G at Area 51, he was always complaining about the "old guy" that insisted that they use an old archaic computer language. He said it was in use because it's simplicity made it safe, but that as far as he was concerned, it was past the point of diminishing returns. He did tell me the name, and I don't remember it being Forth

They are doing some weird stuff with refrigerator-sized magnets at Area 51.

Also, I know an expert in Eiffel programming language, another dinosaur. It wasn't Eiffel, either.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eiffel_(pr ... g_language)


Forth co-processors can run OS'es created in Forth. Assembly language programs are usually created to do nested sub-routines that need to run extraordinarily fast. Assembly language programs are native low level programs which run faster than "ALL" Interpretive or compiled code. Machine Code 1001001110100 runs faster than assembly code as this is the native chip machine language. I have only know one person who did machine level coding and he gave up doing in lieu of writing a program which generated machine code.

Fast forward to a Processor which changed everything. The Novix 16 bit processor. It was the first in a series of machine language processor which was designed to run only one set of code. Forth. The forth language was specifically designed to be able to run as a ==>> machine level code processor. Meaning that Forth ASCII code is translated directly into machine language with no OS underneath. This means the only thing that runs on this processor is Forth ASCII code. So Forth opcode / arguments are entered and ran 4- 6 instruction per clock cycle. So this processor ran circles around "ALL PROCESSORS" and this was and is what interested those who were looking at raw compute power. What Forth lacked was the high level commands which makes things so easy to code. You don't have to know the CPU to be able to code in a high level language. You do have to know the CPU and the Forth code that is specific to that processor. The one nice thing about the Novix processor was that one could update the microcode in the CPU so as to be able to run the more up to date Forth implementation.

I was interested in forth because I needed to solve some problems that were time critical. At the time I was considering a career change to be a low level code guru. I had the right people and a great Forth UG to support me in my endeavors. I realized that what I was doing would be for something which discovered didn't fit in my ethics. I was a believer at one point. I lost faith in a the system which was so clandestine that lies to protect the lies. They told so many lies they couldn't even keep them strait. One of my mentors "Captain Zoom Zoom" was Electronics Engineer and programmer. The code I wrote was to be used for Electronics Surveillance. I realized that the electronic surveillance systems that they were designing were to have dual use. I did not want to be a part of that. I believe that the government's clandestine reach has grown to such a point that you and I can be monitored without the van, without wires, without trace. We are being watched by the most sophisticated surveillance satellites our tax dollars have paid for. They have 3D synthetic images of all they turn their eyes to. They can literally march down your hallways in virtual space and look into your drawers and see object inside them. This means they know where all your guns are. They know where you keep your secrets. I should know.

You and I no longer are free. We are now slaves to a system which plans to murder the world. Can I prove this? Yes...



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Post Re: The Golden Thread, Volume 2010 5.2
Thanks Dondep...

Maybe:
St on BG ie: Saint on Bowling Green...

after that i was seeing a event of February... not yet clear -Pacific Ocean-

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Thanks Dondep...

after that i was seeing a event of February... not yet clear -Pacific Ocean-

Best Regards!!!


With all the activity around the ring, and the spate of recent quakes, I think that's a fairly safe bet Recall. All a matter of intensity. Let's hope not.


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Post Re: The Golden Thread, Volume 2010 5.2
Speaking of the Pacific, my area (Puget Sound) is very ripe for a major event. The fact this article is 5 years old only makes it more timely:

Tsunami-Generating Earthquake Near U.S. Possibly Imminent
http://www.livescience.com/environment/ ... unami.html


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Post Re: A funny diversion; "The economy is so bad that..."
Now that's funny!

Simmering Frog wrote:
The economy is so bad that:
I got a pre-declined credit card in the mail.

I ordered a burger at McDonald's and the kid behind the counter asked, "Can you afford fries with that?"

CEO's are now playing miniature golf.

If the bank returns your check marked "Insufficient Funds," you call them and ask if they meant you or them.

Hot Wheels and Matchbox stocks are trading higher than GM.

McDonald's is selling the 1/4 ouncer.

Parents in Beverly Hills fired their nannies and learned their children's names.

A truckload of Americans was caught sneaking into Mexico .

Dick cheney took his stockbroker hunting.

Motel Six won't leave the light on anymore.

The Mafia is laying off judges.

Exxon-Mobil laid off 25 Congressmen.

Congress says they are looking into this Bernard Madoff scandal. Oh Great!! The guy who made $50 Billion disappear is being investigated by the people who made $15 Trillion disappear!

And, finally...
I was so depressed last night thinking about the economy, wars, jobs, my savings, Social Security, retirement funds, etc.,I called the Suicide Lifeline. I got a call center in Pakistan, and when I told them I was suicidal, they got all excited, and asked if I could drive a truck!

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Post Re: SOHO confusion
Dondep wrote:
The Ferret wrote:
recall15 wrote:
Hello Steph:

Why not all squares are black? or why not all squares are white? but 1 white and the remaining black?

Pointing to the one that is near the Sun, please see above the Images of Soho and the Near Object that appear near the Sun in the 3 images... @ Sun Jan 24, 2010 2:57 pm post


Not sure if this explains the black & white 'block outs' and anomalous white shapes....(from website on interpreting images). Could there be a mundane and not sinister explanation after all?



As in Occam's Razor, the "simplest explanation seems to be the best one". While there may be other reasons for the black and white blocks, the simplest explanation is that NASA is putting them there. If one accepts the premise that NASA's first and foremost function is to locate and track the speed, direction, movement and effects of Nibiru for the benefit of the elite, while simultaneously ridiculing the notion for the rest of the hoi poloi, then the simplest explanation is that they are the ones blocking out any visual confirmation that 'IT' is now regularly within the view of their space cameras and monitoring devices. You can ask yourself "why are these examples of 'pixelization' etc only happening now, and not before"? Without giving you data to support your theory, you could argue that perhaps the equipment may be degrading with time, etc etc. Again, that may be true, but again, Occam's Razor would lead us to conclude that NASA is attempting to obscure the view of Nibiru as it's coming in on the final approach. I predict the cameras will be taken off-line soon, with the explanation that they are beginning to "malfunction" due to age and/or especially a claim of "heightened solar activity".

Here's a video that was made of SOHO images on DEC 7:



SOMEthing is ROTTEN in the bowels of Never A Straight Answer.


Or it could be just as they say, Don.

Why draw attention to supposed 'PX' by blocking it out with big black marker pen type blocks? Surely that would only encourage keen eyed and inquisitive folk, with telescopes good enough, to go looking there in that area of sky for themselves? It would be easily visible by now according to the claims about it's size/position, surely? So that does not make any sense.
Though I've yet to hear any PX'ers actually agree on exactly the dimensions/trajectory/position as yet, to be honest.
Oh, and, sorry, everyone in the world who challenges the reality of PX is sucked in by NASA's story and putting their head in the sand, too dumb to think it out for themselves ! :nono

I notice Recall did not come back on that issue. No argument to counter the explanation I posted? Just let's ignore the challenge to what we're saying and hope it all goes away, eh? After all, let's not let actual FACTS get in the way of blind belief when it comes to good ol' PX!

As seems to be getting more prevalent sadly on this forum, unquestioning acceptance of Nibiru/PX and Nancy Lieder's Zetas drivel is taking over from common sense and objective reasoning. Is the Golden Thread going the way of the other conspiracy obsessed doomsday 'woo woo' forums now? :shakehead :crazy

Seems so!
Shame, as I'd come to think of this as the last bastion of real open-ended reason and ongoing UFO discussion.
Time I got my coat I think as I seem to be banging my head against a wall here!

Come 2013 I expect the believers will still all be sucking up dotty Lieder's next lie and excuse for PX no-show number 2! :roll

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I notice Recall did not come back on that issue.


Hello Steph!
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I wrote about it there (Astronomy and Space Domains) @ Sat Nov 21, 2009 2:10 am:
viewtopic.php?f=22&t=999

and some trajectories and Math content there too @ Wed Dec 30, 2009 7:44 pm :
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Also:
The Royal Society (UK national academy of science) meets this week to discuss the possibility of extraterrestrial life on earth. (1)
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The Royal society is historically a key venue for scientific debate and gradual acceptance of controversial ideas into the scientific community.

The meeting at the Royal Society, which will include representatives from Nasa, the European Space Agency and the UN Office for Outer space Affairs marks the 5th anniversary of the Search for Extra-Terrestrial Intelligence (SETI) programme. Lord Rees, President of the Royal Society will also lead one of the sessions.



(1)
http://www.ufo-blogger.com/2010/01/brit ... scuss.html

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Or it could be just as they say, Don.

Why draw attention to supposed 'PX' by blocking it out with big black marker pen type blocks? Surely that would only encourage keen eyed and inquisitive folk, with telescopes good enough, to go looking there in that area of sky for themselves? It would be easily visible by now according to the claims about it's size/position, surely? So that does not make any sense.
Though I've yet to hear any PX'ers actually agree on exactly the dimensions/trajectory/position as yet, to be honest.
Oh, and, sorry, everyone in the world who challenges the reality of PX is sucked in by NASA's story and putting their head in the sand, too dumb to think it out for themselves ! :nono

I notice Recall did not come back on that issue. No argument to counter the explanation I posted? Just let's ignore the challenge to what we're saying and hope it all goes away, eh? After all, let's not let actual FACTS get in the way of blind belief when it comes to good ol' PX!

As seems to be getting more prevalent sadly on this forum, unquestioning acceptance of Nibiru/PX and Nancy Lieder's Zetas drivel is taking over from common sense and objective reasoning. Is the Golden Thread going the way of the other conspiracy obsessed doomsday 'woo woo' forums now? :shakehead :crazy

Seems so!
Shame, as I'd come to think of this as the last bastion of real open-ended reason and ongoing UFO discussion.
Time I got my coat I think as I seem to be banging my head against a wall here!

Come 2013 I expect the believers will still all be sucking up dotty Lieder's next lie and excuse for PX no-show number 2! :roll

See y'!


Ferret your high and mighty attitude is starting to get old and this latest post of your's is boarder line crossing the Golden Rule.
We have let your comments go in the past but I think it's time for a friendly reminder that we allow ALL beliefs and theories here UNLIKE the other forums you speak of.

NO ONE asked you to believe what Recall or Don posts about PX, personally I am on the fence with the whole P/X subject but I read their posts to see what others think.

As for the Nancy Lieder comment, I for one don't believe a word she says and personally think she's a few bricks short of a load.

So for you to state that the this board is Pro Nancy Lieder or Pro Planet "X" is laughable... :roflmao

That is obviously b]YOUR PERSONAL OPINION ONLY [/b] and to be honest it actually OFFENDS me :flame

Me and the staff here volunteer allot of our personal time to offer you and the rest of the GT a fair and balanced board and if you had read anything other than the GT here you would know that :yamon

If you want to post your opinions here we strongly encourage you to do so BUT do it nicely.

Otherwise as you say please put your coat on and find another board that suites your personal beliefs.

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Personal opinion is I think it possible they're bio-satellite worlds of which house whole populations. They certainly appear the descriptive size. They'll be used for transporting a portion of humanity when the time comes.
I can't share with you yet what I'm being told by the entity's we dream with and are amongst us here in this world. They're the manifesting invisible's written about.
Don't forget, even though we allegedly have five energy vehicles requiring re-synthesizing with, you are soul in a housing garment. Spirit is the immortalizing, Living Light re-attachment.

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I was passed an envelope several days ago. I did not see who passed it but what I read was incredible. First off.. the agent who wrote this was a man who was a true believer. He did not leave his name because he was afraid that they would.. do some wet work. The first page was dedicated to his love for this country and his service over the past 30 years. He said when he first started that he had no illusions as to things he would be doing outside his duty and if he did he wouldn't have continued doing what he had to. I am not going to write, at least in part as to what the following two pages were about. I burned them all... I will say that I believe that more people will come forward with their stories about how corrupt the system has become. I will say only one thing about the following two pages, he was told to look the other way when our government did not destroy drugs but instead burned flower and sugar in its place. I believe he gave to much information which could have lead back to him. To that person who slipped me the envelope, thank you for coming forward. I know it took courage to go public with what you told me.

I have something to add to this. From what I gathered from this persons writing, I believe that our government has become so desperate for money that they now have stooped so low as to loose all credibility. It is easy for you people in the government to do what the law says not to do because no one is there to stop you. The hypocrisy grows.

I would never have suspected that someone would have come forward with anything like this who is on the inside. I believe that this will change. I have great courage for change to happen when people start coming forward in droves. It is time for a revolution. Not a revolution in a physical sense but one in mind and spirit. We all must play nicely in this little sand box called earth and we must all obey the rules or change them.

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a question during the coming week:

if any of you start dreaming about a Tsunami, Waves or a lot of Water
... Please let me now.

Thank you

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Oh Sh*t, Recall, I’m sorry you asked that question.

I did, in fact, have one of those “odd” dreams about rushing water over the weekend. It was quite vivid, sequential and “long”, with a storyline, as it were:

Without boring you with the details, I was on a very pleasant but fast-moving river along what I took to be a very pretty fantasyland of charming villages. But as I looked up, there seemed to be a large TV frame surrounding the sudden eruption of an improbably huge, curling wave resembling the classic Hokusai watercolor that surged up and overwhelmed the roof of a house on the shore, stripping the tiles off it. At one point a very large group of people were swimming for their lives. I was speechless as no one else accompanying me on our boat seemed to notice this. I turned to someone and asked him: What did you say the name of this river was? He replied: ‘DeNile’ (denial)....

For what it’s worth, there you have it. Nothing actionable, but......

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P.S. The last time I dreamed something like this, water was streaming down a road leading into a small town and I felt: we’ve got to get the people out of here. That dream preceded the great Mississippi flood of 1993 by several weeks.


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I turned to someone and asked him: What did you say the name of this river was? He replied: ‘DeNile’ (denial)....

Thank you...

Could be the Snake River Region?

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SOHO's Photos

Personal opinion is I think it possible they're bio-satellite worlds of which house whole populations. They certainly appear the descriptive size. They'll be used for transporting a portion of humanity when the time comes.
I can't share with you yet what I'm being told by the entity's we dream with and are amongst us here in this world. They're the manifesting invisible's written about.
Don't forget, even though we allegedly have five energy vehicles requiring re-synthesizing with, you are soul in a housing garment. Spirit is the immortalizing, Living Light re-attachment.

Dex

What I want to know is how can these humongous craft, or bio-satellite worlds, as you put it Dex -- they must be thousands of miles across-- be in such close proximity to the Sun without burning up, let alone their occupants being exposed to all manner of deadly ionizing radiation? They must have some pretty incredible protective shields in their arsenals...unless the occupants and their crafts are existing in a density below physical matter itself.

Come to think of it, Graham Birdsall's Soho footage of 2001 had actually shown "motherships" firing beams of light intermittently into the sun, as if they were either sucking out matter to power their propulsion systems, or on a remedial operation on the Sun itself.


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Underground Facilities - Bases - Tunnels

I have read about underground bases in the south western part of the United States, particularly Dulce, New Mexico and Nevada. I have also heard about underground tunnel system that run in mazes under the surface of the planet. Most people connect these tunnel with ET's and covert government activities. There is allegedly exist cities built by different governments and those left behind by ancients who lived here thousands of years ago. We will probably never know the truth. As a remote viewer - I can tell you that many of these facilities do exist.

Mount Weather Underground government bases also exist for various reasons. One of the them is nicknamed Mt. Weather and is just outside of Washington, DC. Mount Weather and Underground Bases.

Article about these bases:
Few Americans--indeed, few Congressional reps--are aware of the existence of Mount Weather, a mysterious underground military base carved deep inside a mountain near the sleepy rural town of Bluemont, Virginia, just 46 miles from Washington DC. Mount Weather --also known as the Western Virginia Office of Controlled Conflict Operations--is buried not just in hard granite, but in secrecy as well.

In March, 1976, The Progressive Magazine published an astonishing article entitled The Mysterious Mountain. The author, Richard Pollock, based his investigative report on Senate subcommittee hearings and upon "several off-the-record interviews with officials formerly associated with Mount Weather." His report, and a 1991 article in Time Magazine entitled Doomsday Hideaway, supply a few compelling hints about what is going on underground.

Ted Gup, writing for Time, describes the base as follows: "Mount Weather is a virtually self-contained facility. Above ground, scattered across manicured lawns, are about a dozen buildings bristling with antennas and microwave relay systems. An on-site sewage-treatment plant, with a 90,000 gal.-a-day capacity, and two tanks holding 250,000 gal. of water could last some 200 people more than a month; underground ponds hold additional water supplies. Not far from the installation's entry gate are a control tower and a helicopter pad. The mountain's real secrets are not visible at ground level."

The mountain's "real secrets" are protected by warning signs, 10 foot-high chain link fences, razor wire, and armed guards. Curious motorists and hikers on the Appalachian trail are relieved of their sketching pads and cameras and sent on their way. Security is tight.

The government has owned the site since 1903; it has seen service as an artillery range, a hobo farm during the Depression, and a National Weather Bureau Facility. In 1936, the U.S. Bureau of Mines took control and started digging.

Mount Weather is virtually an underground city, according to former personnel interviewed by Pollock. Buried deep inside the earth, Mount Weather was equipped with such amenities as:

- private apartments and dormitories
- streets and sidewalks
- cafeterias and hospitals
- a water purification system, power plant and general office buildings
- a small lake fed by fresh water from underground springs - a transit system
- a TV communication system

Mount Weather is the self-sustaining underground command center for the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA).

The facility is the operational center - the hub - of approximately 100 other Federal Relocation Centers, most of which are concentrated in Pennsylvania, West Virginia, Virginia, Maryland and North Carolina. Together this network of underground facilities constitutes the backbone of America's "Continuity of Government" program. In the event of nuclear war, declaration of martial law, or other national emergency, the President, his cabinet and the rest of the Executive Branch would be "relocated" to Mount Weather.

What Does Congress Know about Mount Weather?

According to the Senate Subcommittee on Constitutional Rights hearings in 1975, Congress has almost no knowledge and no oversight --budgetary or otherwise--on Mount Weather. Retired Air Force General Leslie W. Bray, in his testimony to the subcommittee, said "I am not at liberty to describe precisely what is the role and the mission and the capability that we have at Mount Weather, or at any other precise location."

Apparently, this underground capital of the United States is a secret only to Congress and the US taxpayers who paid for it. The Russians know about it, as reported in Time: "Few in the U.S. government will speak of it, though it is assumed that all along the Soviets have known both its precise location and its mission (unlike the Congress, since Bray wouldn't tell); defense experts take it as a given that the site is on the Kremlin's targeting maps. " The Russians attempted to buy real estate right next door, as a "country estate" for their embassy folks, but that deal was dead- ended by the State Department.

Mount Weather's "Government-in-Waiting":

Pollock's report, based on his interviews with former officials at Mount Weather, contains astounding information on the base's personnel. The underground city contains a parallel government-in-waiting: "High- level Governmental sources, speaking in the promise of strictest anonymity, told me [Pollock] that each of the Federal departments represented at Mount Weather is headed by a single person on whom is conferred the rank of a Cabinet-level official. Protocol ven demands that subordinates address them as 'Mr. Secretary.' Each of the Mount Weather 'Cabinet members' is apparently appointed by the White House and serves an indefinite term ... many through several Administrations. The facility attempts to duplicate the vital functions of the Executive branch of the Administration."

Nine Federal departments are replicated within Mount Weather (Agriculture; Commerce; Health, Education & Welfare; Housing & Urban Development; Interior; Labor; State; Transportation; and Treasurey) as well as at least five Federal agencies (Federal Communications Commission, Selective Service, Federal Power Commission, Civil Service Commission, and the Veterans Administration). The Federal Reserve and the U.S. Post Office, both private corporations, also have offices in Mount Weather.

Pollock writes that the "cabinet members" are "apparently" appointed by the White House and serve an indefinite term, but that information cannot be confirmed, raising the further question of who holds the reins on this "back-up government." Furthermore, appointed Mount Weather officials hold their positions through several elected administrations, transcending the time their appointers spend in office. Unlike other presidential nominees, these apppointments are made without the public advice or consent of the Senate.

Is there an alternative President and Vice President as well? If so, who appoints them? Pollock says only this: "As might be expected, there is also an Office of the Presidency at Mount Weather. The Federal Preparedness Agency (precursor to FEMA) apparently appoints a special staff to the Presidential section, which regularly receives top secret national security estimates and raw data from each of the Federal departments and agencies. What Do They Do At Mount Weather?

1) Collect Data on American Citizens

The Senate Subcommittee in 1975 learned that the "facility held dossiers on at least 100,000 Americans. [Senator] John Tunney later alleged that the Mount Weather computers can obtain millions of pieces of additional information on the personal lives of American citizens simply by tapping the data stored at any of the other ninety-six Federal Relocation Centers."

The subcommittee concluded that Mount Weather's databases "operate with few, if any, safeguards or guidelines."

2) Store Necessary Information

The Progressive article detailed that "General Bray gave Tunney's subcommittee a list of the categories of files maintained at Mount Weather: military installations, government facilities, communications, transportation, energy and power, agriculture, manufacturing, wholesale and retail services, manpower, financial, medical and educational institutions, sanitary facilities, population, housing shelter, and stockpiles." This massive database fits cleanly into Mount Weather's ultimate purpose as the command center in the event of a national emergency.

3) Play War Games

This is the main daily activity of the approximately 240 people who work at Mount Weather. The games are intended to train the Mount Weather bureaucracy to managing a wide range of problems associated with both war and domestic political crises.

Decisions are made in the "Situation Room," the base's nerve center, located in the core of Mount Weather.

The Situation Room is the archetypal war room, with "charts, maps and whatever visuals may be needed" and "batteries of communications equipment connecting Mount Weather with the White House and 'Raven Rock'-- the underground Pentagon sixty miles north of Washington--as well as with almost every US military unit stationed around the globe," according to the Progressive article. "All internal communications are conducted by closed-circuit color television ... senior officers and 'Cabinet members' have two consoles recessed in the walls of their office."

Descriptions of the war games read a bit like a Ian Fleming novel. Every year there is a system-wide alert that "includes all military and civilian-run underground installations." The real, aboveground President and his Cabinet members are "relocated" to Mount Weather to observe the simulation. Post-mortems are conducted and the margins for error are calculated after the games. All the data is studied and documented.

4) Civil Crisis Management

Mount Weather personnel study more than war scenarios. Domestic "crises" are also tracked and watched, and there have been times when Mount Weather almost swung into action, as Pollock reported: "Officials who were at Mount Weather during the 1960s say the complex was actually prepared to assume certain governmental powers at the time of the 1961 Cuban missile crisis and the assassination of President Kennedy in 1963. The installation used the tools of its 'Civil Crisis Management' program on a standby basis during the 1967 and 1968 urban riots and during a number of national antiwar demonstrations, the sources said."

In its 1974 Annual Report, the Federal Preparedness Agency stated that "Studies conducted at Mount Weather involve the control and management of domestic political unrest where there are material shortages (such as food riots) or in strike situations where the FPA determines that there are industrial disruptions and other domestic resource crises."

The Mount Weather facility uses a vast array of resources to continually monitor the American people. According to Daniel J. Cronin, former assistant director for the FPA, Reconnaissance satellites, local and state police intelligence reports, and Federal law enforcement agencies are just a few of the resources available to the FPA [now FEMA] for information gathering. "We try to monitor situations and get to them before they become emergencies," Cronin said. "No expense is spared in the monitoring program."

5) Maintain and Update the "Survivors List"

Using all the data generated by the war games and domestic crisis scenarios, the facility continually maintains and updates a list of names and addresses of people deemed to be "vital" to the survival of the nation, or who can "assist essential and non-interruptible services." In the 1976 article, the "survivors list" contained 6,500 names, but even that was deemed to be low. Who Pays for All This, and How Much?

At the same time tens of millions of dollars were being spent on maintaining and upgrading the complex to protect several hundred designated officials in the event of nuclear attack, the US government drastically reduced its emphasis on war preparedness for US citizens. A 1989 FEMA brochure entitled "Are You Prepared?" suggests that citizens construct makeshift fallout shelters using used furniture, books, and other common household items.

Officially, Mount Weather (and its budget) does not exist. FEMA refuses to answer inquiries about the facility; as FEMA spokesman Bob Blair told Time magazine, "I'll be glad to tell you all about it, but I'd have to kill you afterward."

We don't know how much Mount Weather has cost over the years, but of course, American taxpayers bear this burden as well. A Christian Science Monitor article entitled "Study Reveals US Has Spent $4 Trillion on Nukes Since '45" reports that "The government devoted at least $12 billion to civil defense projects to protect the population from nuclear attack. But billions of dollars more were secretly spent on vast underground complexes from which civilian and military officials would run the government during a nuclear war." What is Mount Weather's Ultimate Purpose?

We have seen that Mount Weather contains an unelected, parallel "government-in-waiting" ready to take control of the United States upon word from the President or his successor. The facility contains a massive database of information on U.S. citizens which is operated with no safeguards or accountability. Ostensibly, this expensive hub of America's network of sub-terran bases was designed to preserve our form of government during a nuclear holocaust.

But Mount Weather is not simply a Cold War holdover. Information on command and control strategies during national emergencies have largely been withheld from the American public. Executive Order 11051, signed by President Kennedy on October 2, 1962, states that "national preparedness must be achieved... as may be required to deal with increases in international tension with limited war, or with general war including attack upon the United States."

However, Executive Order 11490, drafted by Gen. George A Lincoln (former director for the Office of Emergency Preparedness, the FPA's predecessor) and signed by President Nixon in October 1969, tells a different story. EO 11490, which superceded Kennedy's EO 11051, begins, "Whereas our national security is dependent upon our ability to assure continuity of government, at every level, in any national emergency type situation that might conceivably confront the nation."

As researcher William Cooper points out, Nixon's order makes no reference to "war," "imminent attack," or "general war." These quantifiers are replaced by an extremely vague "national emergency type situation" that "might conceivably" interfere with the workings of the national power structure. Furthermore, there is no publicly known Executive Order outlining the restoration of the Constitution after a national emergency has ended. Unless the parallel government at Mount Weather does not decide out of the goodness of its heart to return power to Constitutional authority, the United States could experience an honest-to-God coup d'etat posing as a national emergency.

Like the enigmatic Area 51 in Nevada, the Federal government wants to keep the Mount Weather facility buried in secrecy. Public awareness of this place and its purpose would raise serious questions about who holds the reins of power in this country. The Constitution states that those reins lie in the hands of the people, but the very existence of Mount Weather indicates an entirely different reality. As long as Mount Weather exists, these questions will remain. Mount Weather's Russian Twin.

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On April 16, 1996, the New York Times reported on a mysterious military base being constructed in Russia: "In a secret project reminiscent of the chilliest days of the Cold War, Russia is building a mammoth underground military complex in the Ural Mountains, Western officials and Russian witnesses say.

Hidden inside Yamantau mountain in the Beloretsk area of the southern Urals, the project involved the creation of a huge complex, served by a railroad,a highway, and thousands of workers."

The New York Times article quotes Russian officials describing the underground compound variously as a mining site, a repository for Russian treasures, a food storage area, and a bunker for Russia's leaders in case of nuclear war.

It would seem that the Russian Parliament knows as little about Russian underground bases as the Congress knows about Mount Weather in the United States. "The (Russian) Defense Ministry declined to say whether Parliament has been informed about the details of the project, like its purpose and cost, saying only that it receives necessary military information," according to the New York Times.

"We can't say with confidence what the purpose is, and the Russians are not very interested in having us go in there," a senior American official said in Washington. "It is being built on a huge scale and involves a major investment of resources. The investments are being made at a time when the Russians are complaining they do not have the resources to do things pertaining to arms control."

Where's the Money Coming From?

The construction of the vast underground complex in Russia may very well become a cause of concern to the Clinton Administration. The issue of ultimate purpose for the complex, whether defensive (as with Mount Weather) or offensive (such as an underground weapons factory) is not the only issue Mr. Clinton has to worry about.

The real cause for concern is that the US is currently sending hundreds of millions of dollars to Russia, supposedly to help that country dismantle old nuclear weapons. Meanwhile, the Russian parliament has been complaining to Yeltsin that it cannot pay $250 million in back wages owed to its workers at the same time that it is spending money to comply with new strategic arms reduction treaties.

Aviation Week and Space Technology reported that "It seems the nearly $30 billion a year spent on intelligence hasn't answered the question of what the Russians are up to at Yamantau Mountain in the Urals. The huge underground complex being built there has been the object of U.S. interest since 1992. 'We don't know exactly what it is,' says Ashton Carter, the Pentagon's international security mogul. The facility is not operational, and the Russians have offered 'nonspecific reassurances' that it poses no threat to the U.S."

U.S. law states that the Administration must certify to Congress that any money sent to Russia is used to disarm its nuclear weapons. However, is that the case? If the Russian parliament is complaining of a shortage of funds for nuclear disarmament, then how can Russia afford to build the Yamantau complex?


America's Secret Bases Still Operational

August 5, 1998 - Scripps Howard News Service

The underground installations, ultra-secure manufacturing plants and once-secret laboratories America needed to wage the Cold War are still intact despite federal downsizing policies that have gutted many other military and civilian programs.

The Clinton administration during its first five years increased the staff at the massive Cheyenne Mountain Air Force and Army complex in the Rocky Mountains of Colorado. That famous underground vault where thousands of military strategists and technicians were, and still are, prepared to fight World War III is undergoing a $1.7 billion renovation to improve its computer systems that track missiles and orbiting space vehicles.

Nearly as healthy are the Department of Energy installations still used to assemble, refurbish and maintain the estimated 10,000 warheads in the United States' nuclear stockpile. And more hale than ever are the four major national laboratories that discovered atomic fission, the much more destructive nuclear fusion and the means to develop them into history's most dangerous weapons.

A Scripps Howard News Service study of federal civilian payroll records at 10 of these facilities found that employment at these institutions has declined about 8.8 percent during the Clinton administration. That's only about half of the manpower reductions made throughout the military and in the rest of the civilian government.

The so-called "peace dividend" predicted by former President George Bush has come in modest drabs to the Cold War's high technology infrastructure under Clinton. The 10 military bases, laboratories and production facilities in the Scripps Howard study still maintained 25,191 workers in 1997. But taxpayers received little benefit from these cuts because many of the jobs that remained are among the highest paid in the federal government. The study found that the total payroll at these 10 facilities grew during this five-year period from $994.5 million to $1.14 billion, or a 15 percent rise.

Only one facility, the White Sands Missile Testing Range in New Mexico, experienced a modest decline in civilian payroll costs. Total employment at Cheyenne Mountain rose by 12 civilian jobs during this period, increasing from 6,646 workers in 1992 to 6,658 as of Sept. 30 last year. This small increase makes the vast underground complex one of the few U.S. military bases to increase in size during the 1990s.

Birmingham said the base still watches for the launch of any high-altitude missile system anywhere in the world, and monitored Iran's launch of an intermediate range ballistic weapon last month. The center also tracks more than 8,500 objects in earth orbit to warn manned space flights of possible collision threats, and assists the Justice Department and U.S. Customs in illegal drug interdiction programs by trying to track aircraft suspected of carrying narcotics. In addition, Cheyenne Mountain operates military communication and navigation satellites that have become vital to Western armies. "Space support basically allowed U.S. forces to perform that famous 'left hook' operation (during the Persian Gulf War.) The Iraqis assumed no one could navigate that well in the desert.

The Scripps Howard manpower study found that the huge Department of Energy research facilities: Oak Ridge National Laboratory in Tennessee, Argonne National Laboratory near Chicago, Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory in northern California and New Mexico's Los Alamos - have survived despite White House downsizing policies.

These facilities were privatized decades ago and are operation centers for commercial research contractors. Even so, Department of Energy employees who remain to monitor the work performed at the labs have suffered only modest declines, dropping from 1,961 federal workers in 1992 to 1,615 employees last year. The overall employment at these laboratories is much, much larger. Only 77 workers at Los Alamos, N.M., are directly employed by the Department of Energy. But the vast lab facility managed by the University of California employs about 10,000 non-government works.

The overall contract work at these facilities grew as the labs conducted increasingly diverse research into basic physics with applications for industry and other non-defense government agencies. But their original mission of designing nuclear warheads, apparently, also has not suffered despite international agreements like the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty.

The arms race with Russia is, officially, over. But the construction, assembly and development facilities that built the warheads and test the delivery systems continue with slightly reduced staffs. Total employment declined by 8 percent at the Savannah River Site in South Carolina, which produces bomb-grade uranium; the Pantex Plant in Texas, which assembles warheads; the Redstone Arsenal complex in Alabama ,which produced Cold War missile systems and continues to design weapons for the U.S. Army; and the several secured facilities scattered across the Nellis Air Force Bombing range in southern Nevada, home of the Nevada Test Site. These four groups of facilities employed 14,182 civilian workers in 1992 and 13,045 as of last year.

The Scripps Howard study is based upon civilian payroll records maintained by the U.S. Office of Personnel Management and obtained by the Transactional Records Access Clearinghouse at Syracuse University. The records provide information about 2.2 million federal employees as of Sept. 30, 1992 and for the 1.8 million employed on the same date last year.

NORTH WALES

During the summer of 1998, cave explorers using scientific equipment were able to confirm that a linked cave system some 15 miles in length exists underground in North Wales. Several years ago a researcher by the name of Frank D. Adams wrote on the results of his personal scientific experiments which may prove that giant cavities exist in granite at depths of more than 11 miles, conclusions which have also been supported by Louis V. King, a mathematician who calculated that, at normal temperatures, a cavity would exist at a depth of between 17.2 and 20.9 miles. The authors' findings are also supported by the discovery of "16 Rouse Belts" which give planes of fracture penetrating the globe.

Something of an extreme claim to some, perhaps, was that of Dr. Ron Anjard in an article in the Summer, 1978 issue of Pursuit Magazine, in which he claimed personal knowledge of 44 underground cities beneath the surface of North America, six of which are supposedly located on the West Coast. His information allegedly comes from anonymous American Indian sources.

When we relate this to the large number of migration legends (to and from cavern realms) which exist among the native Amerindians, then we may conclude that certain tribes possibly still retain intimate knowledge of underground civilizations related to them via distant ancestral links.

Some of the elders of these different tribes, others have suggested, may in fact maintain present contact with several of these cavern civilizations. There are a few indications that some such 'tribes' literally moved underground as a result of the encroaching Anglosaxon civilization upon the America's. Similar allegations are made in relation to South and Central America as well.

Interviews with survivors of a mine explosion in Dec. 26, 1945, known as the "Belva Mine Disaster", appeared in the December 1981 - January 1982 issues of newspapers in Pineville, Kentucky and elsewhere. The interviews revealed that some of the trapped men saw a "door" in one of the walls open, and a man dressed like a "lumberjack" emerged from a well-lighted room.

After assuring the men that they would be rescued, the strange visitor returned to the room and closed the door. These "lumberjack-like" entities have been described by miners in other parts of the country and in other nations as well. There seems to be some confusion as to whether they are physical or paraphysical entities.

A somewhat similar incident allegedly took place several years ago near Shipton, Pennsylvania. Of the three victims of this particular mine disaster, only two were rescued. However both described a similar para-physical encounter with strange 'men' who entered the caverns and gave light to the two trapped miners and told them that they would be rescued. They were uncertain whether the entities were humans or supernatural beings however, as much of their collective "hallucination" contained both physical as well as supernatural elements. The bluish "light" which illuminated the room, they said, was real, but other holographic-like visuals that appeared on the walls, when touched by their hands, either disappeared or revealed solid rock behind


NEW YORK CITY

R. L. Blain-Sanders, in an article titled 'Tunnels and Caverns Beneath New York City,' which appeared in the Fall, 1981 issue of Shavertron, described the author's knowledge of a large triangular system of tunnels utilized by a 'Masonic lodge', deep below the surface of New York City. Could this have any connection to the other 'rumors' to the effect that cavernous regions exist below Manhattan? For instance, in 1962 Con Edison, while drilling a test hole in the north of East River Park, New York City, broke through to open space about 200 feet below. Also, there are the allegations of Morris Doreal that the Church of St. John the Divine in New York was built over ancient tunnels leading to a dome-shaped city abandoned by antediluvian 'Atlanteans' and later, apparently, re-established by post- deluvians. Then we have the accounts of thousands of people who have literally and mysteriously disappeared off the face of the earth in and around New York City.

Raymond Bond, in an article titled 'Subterranean Saucers -- Global Network of UFO Bases', which appeared in Saga's UFO Annual 1980 (Brooklyn, N.Y.), described caves within Mt. Sombrero in the Tampica area of Mexico, from which sounds resembling those made by 'hydroelectric generating equipment' can be heard. Also, inhabitants of the interior of Mt. Kilimanjaro were also described. Kilimanjaro is one of the highest peaks in Africa.



MARYLAND

Articles in the Washington Star-News, July 25, 1973 and Aug. 15, 1973, tell of the discovery of an unexplored network of ancient, artificial tunnels during construction of a parking lot in Crofton, Maryland. Subsequent construction covered the tunnel entrances before the system could be completely investigated.


BARSTOW, CALIFORNIA

Leon Davidson, in an early issue of Flying Saucers Magazine, spoke of a large network of "underground tunnels in the California desert, at Camp Irwin, near Barstow." This may tie-in with an item related by a Los Angeles municipal water director, as related in an early issue of Richard Toronto's Shavertron letter-zine, stating that this water director knew of 5 large underground rivers which ran beneath the Mojave desert, and that die-traces showed that at least one of these emptied into the Pacific ocean through openings in the continental slopes (One source stated that such a river exited in the Gulf of California).

Other sources speak of a "Kokoweef" river-system which is alleged to lie below Kokoweef peak just east of Fort Irwin, which looked- -according to it's alleged discoverer, a Mr. Earl Dorr, and a few "Indians" who also claimed to have been in it--like a "Grand Canyon" underground. It allegedly consists of a river chasm generally 500 ft. wide and over a thousand feet high-deep, sided by steep tiered-shelved underground cliffs, huge stalactites and cataracts. Also, the alluvial sands on the 'beaches' along the river, which allegedly hold a large percentage of gold dust, are said to be several feet deep. The entrance to this cavern was allegedly dynamited shut by Mr. Dorr to protect anyone else from getting to "his" gold. There is in fact evidence that Dorr did dynamite shut the lower level of 'Kin Sabe' cave in Kokoweef Peak, and there are present-day attempts to break through into this underground system. The water of the river allegedly rose and fell with the tides, suggesting that a very large body of water might exist upstream, that is if Dorr's account as well as the accounts of the Indians were not fabricated).

The municipal water director, according to the Shavertron article, spoke with a man who claimed that he was hired several years ago by the government to look for water sources for Ft. Irwin. He alleged to have explored an old mine in the area and found that deep down, the shaft intersected with an ancient earth fault or chasm- like cave which continued horizontally for a considerable distance. This government employee followed the chasm and allegedly emerged onto the bank of a huge underground river-cave over a quarter of a mile wide! The tremendous water flow-- possibly originating from the waters that apparently disappear beneath the Great Basin, the Nevada and Mojave deserts? -could have 'fed' the water needs of all of Southern California.

Paul Doerr (not to be confused with Mr. Dorr referred to above), in issue number 6 of his Newsletter Unknown, related the tradition concerning a race of human giants which, according to stories in the Carolinas islands and especially Papua, allegedly went underground in ancient times. Once inhabitants of a lost island-continent called "Chamat," they will, according to legend, one day emerge. This legend is wide-spread throughout Malaysia, which incidentally contains the largest "officially recognized" cavern chamber, the "Sarowak Chamber" on the island of Borneo in the Malaysian islands. It is said to be 230 ft. wide by 980 ft. long and nowhere less than 270 ft. high, large enough to easily hold within itself the two previous contenders for the world's largest official chamber - Carlsbad's "Big Room" in New Mexico and the "Salle de la Verna" in the Pierre Saint- Martin caverns in France. Yankee stadium could fit in one end of the Sarowak chamber with room to spare! The same issue of Unknown also reports on the discovery of massive caverns in Toulumne Co., California, by three Oakland miners. The caverns were so extensive that a man would have to "take grub for a week, and plan to explore for a month."


EGYPT

Dr. Earlyne Chaney, in an article titled 'Odyssey Into Egypt, in her occult-oriented magazine Voice of Astara (May, 1982) tells of a discovery she and researcher Bill Cox was shown in Egypt. These were two tunnels, neither of which had been fully explored. One was in the temple of Edfu between Luxor and Cairo in the ruins of El Tuna Gabel; and the other near Zozer's Step Pyramid at Cairo near Memphis-Saqqarah, within the tomb of the Bull, called "Serapium". The Egyptian government sealed both tunnels because of fears of certain archaeologists who alleged that they "lead too deeply down into the depths of the earth," and because they found the earth to be "honeycombed with passages leading off into other depths," and the possibility of explorers becoming lost.

If such labyrinths do exist, then it may explain one story which alleged that men dressed like "ancient Egyptians" have been seen deep in unexplored tunnels near Cairo, as well as possible confirmation of the story which appeared in Nevada Aerial Research's Leading Edge publication to the effect that the U.S.(?) Government secretly maintains a huge base within a cavern of tremendous size (several miles in diameter) beneath the desert sands of Egypt. Could this tie in with the vaque references to a subterranean society(s) referred to by certain people 'in the know' which is/are known as the 'Phoenix Empire' and/or the 'Gizeh People'?

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Just invert the images colors to see... (and avoid over saturation)

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so you can really see the moons and tail...

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Or it could be just as they say, Don.

Why draw attention to supposed 'PX' by blocking it out with big black marker pen type blocks? Surely that would only encourage keen eyed and inquisitive folk, with telescopes good enough, to go looking there in that area of sky for themselves? It would be easily visible by now according to the claims about it's size/position, surely? So that does not make any sense.
Though I've yet to hear any PX'ers actually agree on exactly the dimensions/trajectory/position as yet, to be honest.
Oh, and, sorry, everyone in the world who challenges the reality of PX is sucked in by NASA's story and putting their head in the sand, too dumb to think it out for themselves ! :nono

I notice Recall did not come back on that issue. No argument to counter the explanation I posted? Just let's ignore the challenge to what we're saying and hope it all goes away, eh? After all, let's not let actual FACTS get in the way of blind belief when it comes to good ol' PX!

As seems to be getting more prevalent sadly on this forum, unquestioning acceptance of Nibiru/PX and Nancy Lieder's Zetas drivel is taking over from common sense and objective reasoning. Is the Golden Thread going the way of the other conspiracy obsessed doomsday 'woo woo' forums now? :shakehead :crazy

Seems so!
Shame, as I'd come to think of this as the last bastion of real open-ended reason and ongoing UFO discussion.
Time I got my coat I think as I seem to be banging my head against a wall here!

Come 2013 I expect the believers will still all be sucking up dotty Lieder's next lie and excuse for PX no-show number 2! :roll

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Ferret your high and mighty attitude is starting to get old and this latest post of your's is boarder line crossing the Golden Rule.
We have let your comments go in the past but I think it's time for a friendly reminder that we allow ALL beliefs and theories here UNLIKE the other forums you speak of.

NO ONE asked you to believe what Recall or Don posts about PX, personally I am on the fence with the whole P/X subject but I read their posts to see what others think.

As for the Nancy Lieder comment, I for one don't believe a word she says and personally think she's a few bricks short of a load.

So for you to state that the this board is Pro Nancy Lieder or Pro Planet "X" is laughable... :roflmao

That is obviously b]YOUR PERSONAL OPINION ONLY [/b] and to be honest it actually OFFENDS me :flame

Me and the staff here volunteer allot of our personal time to offer you and the rest of the GT a fair and balanced board and if you had read anything other than the GT here you would know that :yamon

If you want to post your opinions here we strongly encourage you to do so BUT do it nicely.

Otherwise as you say please put your coat on and find another board that suites your personal beliefs.




I side with ‘The Ferret’ on this one, and I would prefer to stay out of squabbles.

‘The Ferret’ is not the only one who feels “this board is Pro Nancy Lieder or Pro Planet “X”” and what is dismissed as “laughable” (along with the cute little ROFLMAO emoticon) is also my own personal opinion in agreement with ‘The Ferret.’ This site is both pro Nancy Lieder AND pro PX as NL relays thru her ‘zetas,’ and I have told Dondep this on more than one occasion. However, irregardless of the cause that “the earth shall reel to and fro like a drunkard,” Dondep and I can easily reconcile our differences in the need for preparedness and emergency supplies.

“Planet X,” or “Hercolubus,” or “Wormwood” or whatever designation given, whether it be from legend, Sitchen’s works, Oahspe, or the Bible are quite different and diverse sources than some lady channeling ‘zetas’ giving a message that the earth has been halted in it’s orbit for the last 6 years. Apparently ‘The Ferret’ would like “actual FACTS,” and I cannot blame that person either. I surmise I have not been paying sufficient attention to have noted his or her “high and mighty attitude” when the less gullible encounter the absurd.


Apologies in advance if my opinion offends TPTB around here.

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“Hercolubus” was mentioned to a South American contactee in the book "Date with the Gods" by a female ET named Rama from Jupiter's Ganymede...she never did explain what her reference meant. Maybe, after all these years, Chaco (the contactee) may have learned more about it?

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Uncle John here: Well, to planet X or not? Hydroplex, SuperSex, Genuflex, Paraflex, I just don't know?

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I was given a query as to how this person knew where to find me. I didn't give it much thought but I suppose this person knows more about me than I do of him. So as to make it easier for those who want to come forward and don't have the facilities to do so you can send snail mail to..

Ron Davis
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If one person were to come forward I believe more will come forward to tell the PTB's that they are sick and tired of this NWO. Please send what you have and I will be sure to post it if it helps. I believe in the goodness of others. I also want to applaud the person who left the note. It is time we take back our country and shake the pillars of the PTB's... In a non violent way.. of course..

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I would like to encourage others in the UK, Europe, Australia, Et. Al. to post your addresses so that people can start sending in information. Its time we correct the course of history. There is a better way. If you do nothing then evil men will succeed.

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