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The Golden Thread, Volume 5.3 2010
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Dondep
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Re: The Golden Thread, Volume 2010 5.3
_________________ "We seek a free flow of information... we are not afraid to entrust the American people with unpleasant facts, foreign ideas, alien philosophies, and competitive values. For a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people."-John F. Kennedy, Feb. 26th, 1962.
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Fri May 21, 2010 7:45 am |
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Dondep
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Re: The Golden Thread, Volume 2010 5.3
_________________ "We seek a free flow of information... we are not afraid to entrust the American people with unpleasant facts, foreign ideas, alien philosophies, and competitive values. For a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people."-John F. Kennedy, Feb. 26th, 1962.
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Bluebonnet
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Re: The Golden Thread, Volume 2010 5.3
_________________ The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little. - FDR
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Dondep
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Euro Bunker Upgrade & Truth Commission
_________________ "We seek a free flow of information... we are not afraid to entrust the American people with unpleasant facts, foreign ideas, alien philosophies, and competitive values. For a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people."-John F. Kennedy, Feb. 26th, 1962.
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fr33kSh0w2012
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Re: The Golden Thread, Volume 2010 5.3
_________________ I am a HIGHLY STRUNG PRIMA DONNA (atari)
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fr33kSh0w2012
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Re: The Golden Thread, Volume 2010 5.3
LOOK WHAT I FOUND!!!!! Did Dr. Wen Ho Lee Invent Interdimensional Travel Machine?Sacramento, CA -- There may be a timely reason why the U.S. government dropped charges against scientist Dr. Wen Ho Lee: He's invented a machine that permits travel into other dimensions. That's the claim of Sacramento-based UFO expert Dr. Richard Boylan, who claims sources at Los Alamos Nuclear Labs told him Dr. Lee was part of a team of scientists that created a "holographic portal" that makes travel through space and other dimensions a reality. Boylan says his sources claim Lee used his inside information on time travel to bargain with the government and avoid several counts of breaching government security. Other Los Alamos physicists reportedly have information similar to Dr. Lee's and are preparing "insurance policies" by hiding sensitive documents just in case they're targeted by government agencies.
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Fri May 21, 2010 7:38 pm |
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Siam
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Re: The Golden Thread, Volume 2010 5.3
_________________ Something is going to happen, but what?
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Fri May 21, 2010 9:31 pm |
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midnight
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Re: The Golden Thread, Volume 2010 5.3
I applaud those that only buy meat that is the end result of a humane process, but even in a humane process, the end result is that the animal is murdered in order for the meat to be provided for our plates.
This issue of whether meat is murder is extremely contentious, particularly for people that are compassionate and spiritually advanced.
It is hard for me to understand how compassionate, spiritually advanced people can deal with the reality that the meat that sits on their plate is only there because an animal was killed.
I had to say this. No need to comment.
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fr33kSh0w2012
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Re: The Golden Thread, Volume 2010 5.3
To the above post i understand how you feel!
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midnight
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Re: The Golden Thread, Volume 2010 5.3
Thankyou, Freekshow.
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fr33kSh0w2012
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Re: The Golden Thread, Volume 2010 5.3
I know!! it's 6:20pm here wow the year has gone quick it felt like it was just february and now it's nearly june nearly my birthday **yawn** 27 hoo boy i wonder what life will throw at me next!
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Helvetic
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Re: The Golden Thread, Volume 2010 5.3
Mel Fabregas from Veritas interviews Richard C. Hoagland | NASA: Fact or Fiction?
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May 21, 2010 Richard C. Hoagland discussed the decades of NASA deception. Since its inception NASA has been a division of the Department of Defense and is not authorized to disclose any information without the ultimate consent of the Executive Branch: The President / The White House. Therefore, NASA is not a civilian agency; it is a military agency. The only difference is that their craft do not carry guns. Astronauts are not only heroes, but are also victims who have been forced to forgot what they saw on the Moon.
B i o Richard C. Hoagland is a former space science museum curator; a former NASA consultant, and during the historic Apollo Missions to the Moon, was science advisor to Walter Cronkite and CBS News. For over 20 years, Hoagland has been leading an outside scientific team in a critically acclaimed independent analysis of possible intelligently-designed artifacts on Mars. Richard and his team's investigations have been quietly extended to include over 30 years of previously hidden data from NASA, Soviet, and Pentagon missions to the Moon.
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fr33kSh0w2012
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Re: The Golden Thread, Volume 2010 5.3
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Sat May 22, 2010 3:14 am |
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Dondep
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Re: The Golden Thread, Volume 2010 5.3
For those of you that witnessed that little burst of nastiness about my avatar, I just received an email from that person and it turns out there was a major misunderstanding about my using the phrase "redacted for space".
Just so that no-one misunderstands in the future, I use that term as a common courtesy, when a video or image or link is referenced in something I quote but to actually keep it in a quote is only taking up bandwidth. It's for the same reason we don't re-post someone's whole post if we're only going to comment on one thought in it.
Most of you who know me figured this out right away, but apparently it came across as a "diss" when I used that phrase "redacted for space", when actually I thought that video was a really good find. Maybe I should have taken a moment to say "hey, this video is a major piece of evidence! Good work!" Maybe I should do that in the future, but over the years of posting on forums it seems as if half the time posts spend a lot of time just agreeing or praising other people's posts. That's okay too, because it lets the original poster know they 'done a good thing', and encourages more 'good things' like it.
It's a real shame how a small misunderstanding like this can lead to such ugliness, but there you have it. If any reader sees me quote them and use the term "redacted for space" and not have an image or video included in the quote, you'll understand that it's not meant to be a slight, just a concern for using up bandwidth and space.
For the record, I thought that video was a major find, which is why I took the time to put it on the same level in my comment as other major pieces of news that never make the headlines.
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Is Meat 'Murder'?
Back in 1989, I was hired as a manager for a 'crystal cart' at a local shopping mall for the Christmas season. The owners were radical vegetarians, even though the supervisor I reported to confessed privately to me she had just bought a pair of leather boots that were 'da bomb' even though buying anything made of leather was frowned upon. Long story short; our mall cart did way better than the other malls, so the owners took us out for dinner to celebrate and as a way to say 'thanks'. Naturally it was a vegetarian meal, and as the dinner wound down I got into a serious debate with the main owner about the whole issue of vegetarianism. Their position was that killing anything "with a face" was murder, whether for food or clothing or anything else. So I asked him if he would eat meat that came from an animal that had been well-treated for their whole life, and then simply died of old age (which doesn't mean the meat is bad; just a little tough maybe). Based on his entire argument, he had to admit that he would. (Assuming there was no other food available.) I suggested to him that - as Siam just noted above - maybe we should simply treat all animals (which let's face it are grown for food; that's the only reason they're in existence) with respect and care, and when it comes time to 'harvest' the food, to do so in a humane way that painlessly extinguishes their life so that the food remains wholesome and healthy. If an animal were given the choice, I would think they would PREFER that. They'd rather roam about, living as nature intended them, and then when it came time, undergo a quick and painless death. Why can't we do that? Because it costs the big food processors too much? Yes, of course. It's always "the bottom line". Sigh.
So if I were living in a world without the grid, without the big food processors, living like they did in biblical times, I don't know that I could bring myself to slaughter an animal. I couldn't even slaughter the chickens we had when it came time, so we took them to a 'facility' where the chickens came squawking out of our cages in the back of the SUV and emerged hours later on the other side as meat, tightly sealed in plastic just like you find in the grocery store. Really gave me second thoughts about being a carnivore.
_________________ "We seek a free flow of information... we are not afraid to entrust the American people with unpleasant facts, foreign ideas, alien philosophies, and competitive values. For a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people."-John F. Kennedy, Feb. 26th, 1962.
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Bluebonnet
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Re: The Golden Thread, Volume 2010 5.3
_________________ The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little. - FDR
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Cyberbird
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Re: The Golden Thread, Volume 2010 5.3
I'm reading George LoBueno's book right now ---> *Alien Mind: The Thoughts And Behavior Of Extraterrestrials*, and even if I'm only at page 67 out of 240 pages, I already highly recommend it. I think it's a good synthesis of a large amount of available informations on the ETs subject, a deep thought provoking analysis of all aspects on the matter, and above all, it is a very well written book. Even for someone like me who's English is a second or third language, it's a fluid reading. (does that makes sense?) Anyway, I recommend it.
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Grist von Zweifel
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Re: The Golden Thread, Volume 2010 5.3
_________________ Silent friends are only good as pallbearers.
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Sat May 22, 2010 1:19 pm |
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mjc
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Sky
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Re: The Golden Thread, Volume 2010 5.3
Just a personal opinion, but I am happy to take any comments: I have been a vegetarian (lacto) for 35 years of my life now and I will never change that. I was fortunate to study Eastern philosophy in my teens and that's where my eyes opened to the fact that humans are not designed to eat meat. Scientifically/Biologically it is not hard to prove that as humans have a long digestive track we don't digest flesh. I leave the option open here to what happens thus to the flesh consumed to those who want to be inquisitive. And by all means this is not to start a campaign to convert anybodies personal opinion or dietery practice. Apart from clear references in the good book that humans were advised not to consume blood, there is so much evidence in print today that can show the effect on the body from eating flesh in high quantity. There is a statistic in my country that reveals that 70 % of men that consume high meat diets have diabetes as a result. I have assisted many people who are diagnosed with colon or liver cancer in remedying the situation through dietary adjustment. Having personally studied the effects of eating types of grass that have nutritious content (Wheat grass for example) just to understand how I could survive in dire situations for lack of available food and I experienced excellent health as a result, albeit a bland experience. Survival training is a cool experience to understand what you can survive on. So the argument for or against killing does really come down to personal opinion in whether you would do the deed just to survive. Personally I feel I do not want the karmic load as it is hard enough achieving a lightness to make progress on the inner pathway. The feeling from eating only veg and being "light" within a short space of time can't be a bad thing at all. I have not had heartburn ever when I do have a large meal, except for consuming too much starch. Drink the juice of a potato for this by the way rather than Alka-Seltzer!!! Anybody had any nightmares recently after consuming a juicy steak?
_________________ We all have the choice to exercise Free Will. amor vincit omnia "Ignis Natura Renovatur Integram"
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Sky
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The Attempted Murder of God
Has anyone read this book or heard any comments on it? There are many atheists doing a turn in their beliefs after reading this book and prompted me to order it recently.
"the attempted murder of GOD" - hidden science you really need to know Author: Scrooby
ISBN:978-0-9564714-0-6
It basically refutes ALL proof that we evolved from slugs as has been forced down our throats in the past few years, as well as makes a meal of why Conspiracy exists and why Science (or Big Money) will never accept publically that there is actually a Creator.
After just chapter one, I am astounded by the writers style and facts. I trust I will get the time to write up some deeper comments elsewhere on the board (I still have some promised tasks to take care of as committed recently on the general part of the board!)
_________________ We all have the choice to exercise Free Will. amor vincit omnia "Ignis Natura Renovatur Integram"
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Sat May 22, 2010 4:06 pm |
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Rick Hunter
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Re: The Golden Thread, Volume 2010 5.3
I'm glad mjc mentioned that Dondep's avatar was Brandon Lee, I always thought it was but didn't want to ask. I think it's a great avatar and like everyone else's here it says something about the person that chose it. I can't stick one on because I do all my posting from a phone and I don't think it will let me. Google Rick Hunter to see what my avatar would be. He was a pilot in the Anime series Robotech. On the subject of books I have been reading "Fingerprints of the Gods" by Graham Hancock. It's about the evidence for an advanced seafaring civilisation about 12000 years ago, e.g. there are maps that show Antarctica before it was covered in ice.
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Bluebonnet
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Re: The Golden Thread, Volume 2010 5.3
Cyber and Rick - thanks for the book suggestions. I've run out of books to read - well, that is not totally true - I've run out of books to read that I've never read before is more accurate. Thanks for the tips, ya'll! I'll check them out!
_________________ The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little. - FDR
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fr33kSh0w2012
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Re: The Golden Thread, Volume 2010 5.3
@sky oh I totally agree I only eat meat to keep the family happy I only eat small quantities i can't physically eat steak at all i just can't come at it from any angle i will only eat chicken or fish IF and ONLY IF I have to steak i just too tough for my poor old teeth here i'll post a youtube vid of my teeth shortly i apologize in advace if i swear in it so sorry you guys sometimes it just comes out and i don't meen it to!! the reason the water tasted like an ashtray was because it tasted sooty to much flouride, I think it contributed to the state that my teeth are in! Someone at TORONTO in Australia bashed me at 2:30 in the morning they threw me up against a pole and it spiderwebbed my skull it also made hairline cracks in my teeth then a week later i had no money so i was forced to drink the toxic water here and after a week my teeth started shattering in my mouth they were literally exploding in my mouth I was fuming
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Lynnwood
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Dondep
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Re: The Golden Thread, Volume 2010 5.3
_________________ "We seek a free flow of information... we are not afraid to entrust the American people with unpleasant facts, foreign ideas, alien philosophies, and competitive values. For a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people."-John F. Kennedy, Feb. 26th, 1962.
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