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UFO Photo from South Harrow, UK Compared to Norway Photo of 1957

Published by UFO Casebook: 2:18 PM 4/7/2009

In reference to a photograph taken in South Harrow, UK, a UFO Casebook reader brought to our attention a marked similarity between it and a photograph taken in 1957 in Norway.

The reader writes:

Hello. I'm a really big fan of your web site and a believer of UFOs. I wanted to bring to your attention that the South Harrow UFO photo looks to be identical to the UFO in the photo taken in Norway in 1957.

You're the experts, take a look and let me know what you think.

I refreshed my memory, and went over to our Best Photos Archive, and sure enough, there is a close resemblance between the two.

See a comparison below...

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2009-The unidentified flying object appeared through the clouds of South Harrow, UK at about 7.45 PM, on March 31, and was snapped by computer network engineer Ahmad Zaigham.

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1957-Norway-Taken in July of 1957, this photo was sent to Project Blue Book for analysis. Wright Patterson determined that what we are seeing is a reflection of light on the camera lens?

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UFO or not UFO? Area 51 Declassifying Pours Cold Water on Theory
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by Rich Bowden - Apr 12 2009, 23:31

A former engineer at the top secret airfield "Area 51" in Nevada has spoken out about UFO sightings in the region in the 1960s, saying the witnessed flashes of light were part of top secret US aircraft experiments.

In an interview with ABC News, Thornton "T.D." Barnes, 72, a former special-projects engineer at Area 51 said: "No one really knew we existed. Even our wives didn't know where we were going when we left Monday morning and came back Friday evening."

Barnes was an electronics engineer for NASA who also specialised in advance radar and Soviet MiG fighter aircraft and was asked to join a team of CIA experts who would work on secret military projects at the infamous base.

UFO folklore has it that Area 51, about 80 miles north northwest of Las Vegas, is where captured aliens and their spacecraft have been stored by the US military. The conspiracy theory comes in part because of the preponderance of strange, unaccounted for lights that have been seen in the region of the top secret military base.

However Barnes poured cold water on the theory saying the "alien spaceships" were in fact light flashes from top secret spy planes being flown at 2,000 miles per hour at altitudes of 90,000 feet.

The experimental planes produced light flashes that some interpreted as alien spaceships and this was considered helpful by the team in covering their activities.

"We considered it to be a bonus," said Barnes. "They made it easier to conceal what we were doing."

However some ufologists have said the area has only been partly declassified and UFO work at the base may well have carried out though in a region unknown to engineers such as Barnes.

"Those guys who came forward may very well be telling the truth, with the caveat that they wouldn't know if there was something going on," said Stanton T. Friedman, a nuclear physicist, lecturer and top UFO researcher.

[Shady adds Friedman himself states that he worked Classified Projects himself nuclear powered rockets as I remember.. Now lets say for sake of arguement your the Government MIC Military Industrial Complex.. You NEED the UFO cover story alive and going in order to hide your special projects... Whom do you want around ???? Why poeple like Friedman whom you feed false Majestic Twevle Documents too! In order to keep the over all MYTH of UFOs alive.. Just some thoughts... Shady]



Friedman added that evidence coming out of places such as Area 51 proved how much was going on in the country without peoples' knowledge.

"National security has a real place in all of this stuff. There is no way to tell your friends without telling your enemies," he said. "A lot of Americans woke up to the fact that there's a lot going on that they don't get told about."

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Notice the TR3B video on this link looks very much like the delta power configuration of the image from Wurzburg ?


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Subject: TR-3B Antigravity Physics Explained:

To be correct, I probably should say, "TR-3B Antigravity Physics
Explained, insofar as General Relativity can be considered an
explanation for gravity."

Many readers of this list are probably already familiar with Edgart. If not,
read about it here: http://fouchemedia.com/arap/speech.htm.

Mr. Fouche describes the TR-3B's propulsion system as follows:
"A circular, plasma filled accelerator ring called the Magnetic Field
Disrupter, surrounds the rotatable crew compartment and is far ahead
of any imaginable technology... The plasma, mercury based, is
pressurized at 250,000 atmospheres at a temperature of 150 degrees
Kelvin, and accelerated to 50,000 rpm to create a super-conductive
plasma with the resulting gravity disruption.

The MFD generates a magnetic vortex field, which disrupts or
neutralizes the effects of gravity on mass within proximity, by 89
percent...

The current MFD in the TR-3B causes the effect of making the vehicle
extremely light, and able to outperform and outmaneuver any craft yet
...My sources say the performance is limited only the stresses that
the human pilots can endure. Which is a lot, really, considering along
with the 89% reduction in mass, the G forces are also reduced by 89%.
The crew of the TR-3B should be able to comfortable take up to 40Gs...
Reduced by 89%, the occupants would feel about 4.2 Gs.

The TR-3Bs propulsion is provided by 3 multimode thrusters mounted at
each bottom corner of the triangular platform. The TR-3 is a sub-Mach
9 vehicle until it reaches altitudes above l20,000 feet - then who
knows how fast it can go!..."

I was skeptical of Mr. Fouche's claims when I first read them, as I'
m sure that many of you are, but I was interested enough to do further
research on what happens when you spin a plasma at high speeds in a
ring (toroidal) configuration. I came across a physics article (sorry,
I can't seem to locate the source right now) that described this
exact configuration. The article said that, surprisingly, the charged
particles of the plasma don't just spin uniformly around the ring,
but they tend to take up a synchronized, tightly pitched, helical
(screw thread) motion as they move around the ring. This can be
understood in a general way as follows: the charged particles moving
around the ring act as a current that in turn sets up a magnetic field
around the ring. It is a well-known fact that electrons (or ions) tend
to move in a helical fashion around magnetic field lines. Although it
is a highly complex interaction, it only requires a small leap of
faith to believe that the end result of these interactions between the
moving charged particles (current) and associated magnetic fields
results in the helical motion described above. In other words, the
charged particles end up moving in very much the same pattern as the
current on a wire tightly wound around a toroidal core.

I thought that this was an interesting fact, but didn't see how it
could possibly relate to antigravity, until I ran across the following
article: "Guidelines to Antigravity" by Dr. Robert Forward, written in
1962 (available at:
http://www.whidbey.com/forward/pdf/tp007.pdf). Dr. Forward's
article describes several little known aspects of Einstein's General
Relativity Theory that indicate how moving matter can create unusual
gravitational effects. When I saw Figure 5 in Dr. Forward's article,
the pieces of the puzzle all fell together. I instantly saw how the
moving matter pattern that Dr. Forward describes as necessary to
generate a gravitational dipole was exactly the same as the plasma
ring pattern described in the physics article discussed above!

If Fouche's description is even close to correct, then the TR-3B
utilizes this little known loophole in General Relativity Theory to
create it's antigravity effects! Even though the TR-3B can only
supposedly cancel 89% of gravity (and inertia) today, there is no
reason why the technology can't be improved to exceed 100% and
achieve true antigravity capability!

In theory, this same moving matter pattern could be mechanically
reproduced by mounting a bunch of small gyroscopes all around the
larger ring, with their axis on the larger ring, and then spinning
both the gyroscopes and the ring at high speeds. However, as Dr.
Forward points out any such mechanical system would probably fly apart
before any significant antigravity effects could be generated.

However, as Dr. Forward states, "By using electromagnetic forces to
contain rotating systems, it would be possible for the masses to reach
relativistic velocities; thus a comparatively small amount of matter,
if dense enough and moving fast enough, could produce usable
gravitational effects."

The requirement for a dense material moving at relativistic speeds
would explain the use of Mercury plasma (heavy ions). If the plasma
really spins at 50,000 RPM and the Mercury ions are also moving in a
tight pitched spiral, then the individual ions would be moving
probably hundreds, perhaps thousands of times faster than the bulk
plasma spin, in order to execute their "screw thread" motions. It is
quite conceivable that the ions could be accelerated to relativistic
speeds in this manner. I am guessing that you would probably want to
strip the free electrons from the plasma, making a positively charged
plasma, since the free electrons would tend to counter rotate and
reduce the efficiency of the antigravity device.

One of Einstein's postulates of GR says that gravitational mass and
inertial mass are equivalent. This is consistent with Mr. Fouche's
claim that inertial mass within the plasma ring is also reduced by
89%. This would also explain why the vehicle is triangular shaped.
Since it still requires conventional thrusters for propulsion, the
thrusters would need to be located outside of the "mass reduction
zone" or else the mass of the thruster's reaction material would also
be reduced, making them terribly inefficient. Since it requires a
minimum of 3 legs to have a stable stool, it follows that they would
need a minimum of 3 thrusters to have a stable aerospace platform.
Three thrusters, located outside of the plasma ring, plus appropriate
structural support, would naturally lead to a triangular shape for the
vehicle.

I was extremely skeptical of Mr. Fouche's claimed size for the TR-3B,
of 600 feet across. At first, I thought that this must be a typo. Why
would anyone in their right mind build a "Tactical Reconnaissance"
vehicle 2 football fields long? They must be nuts! However, the answer
to this may also be found in Dr. Forward's paper. As Dr. Forward's
puts it, "...even the most optimistic calculations indicate that very
large devices will be required to create usable gravitational forces.
Antigravity...like all modern sciences, will require special projects
involving large sums of money, men, and energy."

John Kooiman









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Notice the TR3B video on this link looks very much like the delta power configuration of the image from Wurzburg ?


http://hubpages.com/hub/What-is-the-TR3B[/url]


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New Land rose on Alaska:
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Like a giant fist punching through the earth, a 1,000-foot long section of the beach below Bluff Point rose up 20 feet from the tidelands sometime last Friday or late Thursday, pushing boulders up from the ocean bottom, cracking sandstone slabs and toppling rocks upside down.

Below Bluff Point, a new fissure opened up at the base of the 800-foot high cliff. The uplift could be a re-activation of a landslide that happened perhaps 12,000 years ago.
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and now the Elixir of Life...

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'Elixir of life discovered'
An "elixir of life" biochemical has been discovered in the soil of Easter Island, prompting suggestions that an "anti-ageing" pill could soon be produced.


Published: 9:46PM BST 08 Jul 2009

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Quotes of note from the story:

"Scientists don't know exactly what caused the uplift. It would take an earthquake over magnitude 7 to cause an uplift that high, said Peter Haeussler, a geologist with the U.S. Geological Survey in Anchorage.

"I have no idea," he said when he first learned of the uplift. "This sounds really, really bizarre."


later

The Hesses said they didn't feel any major earthquakes, and none were measured by USGS. They said they felt some small earthquakes last week.

"They felt like three-pointers to us," Marilyn Hess said. "We thought 'It's probably Redoubt.' They didn't feel like hook-and-shake. They felt like little bumps."

Haeussler ruled out an earthquake causing the uplift.



Ok Basic Geology 101 from college..

Uplift cause

Plate Tectonic.
Volcanic magma displacement.

Since they've ruled out Plate Tectonics that means their must be build up of magma going on deep under ground..

Can anyone say Super Volcano.??







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New Land rose on Alaska:
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Like a giant fist punching through the earth, a 1,000-foot long section of the beach below Bluff Point rose up 20 feet from the tidelands sometime last Friday or late Thursday, pushing boulders up from the ocean bottom, cracking sandstone slabs and toppling rocks upside down.

Below Bluff Point, a new fissure opened up at the base of the 800-foot high cliff. The uplift could be a re-activation of a landslide that happened perhaps 12,000 years ago.
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well, i think it has to do with the wooble...

magma displacement due the movement of the crust...

shall be an indirect effect of Nibiru has it really past the 1st magnetic boundary of the Sun! and its heading our way?

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not related but...
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Abducted woman - Alien fetus autopsy VIDEO
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One of the italian TV 2 days ago interviewed a woman who affirm she had 18 artificial alien inseminations done by what we know as grey, but it seems that the last one was done by another race who she say they told here they are at war with this one was aborted.

The interview is really interesting, she know a lot of details about those aliens, as it seems it now years they abduct her, and she came to know why they do it, also she has many video that have been done in various time after the abduction.

This is part 2 where after the abortion they try to see what is inside what look like placenta. That video is a bit strong so be prepared..
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Very deep and meaningful post there Phatmon.. Thumbs up!

And something we should all consider and take to heart.

I truly feel that this world of ours will get a whole lot stranger, wierd and twisted by the PTB until ultimately what was once good wholesome moral and just, will become evil and what was considered evil will become good within this Matrix of Illusion that PTBs have imprisoned us all with in.

We are under siege.. ladies and gentlemen by the PTBs and those behind them be they reptilians, aliens, demons, Illuminati or the devil himself. What ever you want to call it. It/They are behind dictates of our mortal eilite and PTBs as they turn this world and society into a death camp, both physical (by working you to death for slips of green paper, from cradle to grave) and spiritual.. And now the ultimate murder of the human spirit... turning mankind into a hive society a Police State they call the "New World Order".

But do not dis pear, fall into depression and give up HOPE.. These times were predicted to occur, prophecy by the old shamans about the tribal communitty campfires, to the old Pagan Norse sages who lived in a world between the veils, down to old prophets of the Christian New Testament itself.. This IS the Time of End the End Times... BUT not the end of the World.. But end of our imprisionment and our enslavement to the being behind the scenes..

When the news of world spinning out of control becomes too much of a burden to bare. Close your eyes in meditation and contempation upon what ever name you call God.. An open your heart to its message...

"Fear not.... For my arrival draws closer then ever before.."

You should not fear and panic ladies and gentlemen. or lose your peace of mind at the "Signs of the Times." But Rejoice... For clearly the signs show us, that Powers that Be and Being behind it are PANICKING.. Its pulling out all stops, acceleration its ultimate plans.. push intensely to manifest its "New World Order NOW!"

Because IT knows, what the prophets of old knew and what was promised from the beginning..

Good! not Evil will ultimately Triumph in this last battle.. and IT will be crushed defeated once and for all under the heel of the righteous. IT knows its time is over the clock has run out..its Death (not the worlds) is at hand!

The BATTLE has already been WON... Yet in its arrogance in ITS Ego.. it believes it can alter its own Fate which has always been and always will be defeat..


So.... Fear Not.... for the Matrix (its world, Its New World Order, it has created out of house of cards)... FALLS! Before our eyes and soon we shall have Exit.



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This old matrix is going to a whole lot weirder


Phatman wrote:
I was reading a few quotes from Julian Jaynes and one of the most poignant and salient quotes of our time was this. Schizophrenia is a natural adjustment to an unnatural and or unreasonable set of circumstances". Now let us turn inward. We are assaulted daily by unnatural and unreasonable circumstances. We either find a way to deal with it or we repress. Those who repress escape their legitimate or illegitimate suffering and push it aside until that hole becomes so overloaded that a break or schism occurs. I believe that schisms happen at many levels and we are ground into acceptance. We tend to loathe the suffering instead of accepting. This struggle breaks the will and drives us to become different physically, mentally and spiritually.

Rather than discuss the dictates of why we don't question authority I thought it would be more healing to discuss the ethereal aspects. Those people who are sufficiently grounded spiritually don't exhibit the same behavior as those who are not. The reason for this should be obvious. Those who know... and believe that they are a spirit being do not have the same trappings as those who are corporeally centered. The reality an etheric being understands is that the corporal is only tertiary and fleeting. In this way they accept what is unreasonable without trying to skirt the consequences of enduring the obvious.

Many things have changed for me personally as I have completely accepted my walk in this life as an etheric being only here for the transition. For me, this transition is clear. My path is set. I know where I am going. I have seen the light of truth and know why I am set upon this course. So I am able to withstand my legitimate and illegitimate sufferings gladly with mercy and forgiveness for all. It is this walk in the light which has change not only who I am but what I am. I am neither happy or sad but content knowing of what the future holds for me. None of what we see matters to me like it once did. Even though the future is going to be even more unreasonable and intolerable for many it will change because the light is coming and when it comes all will be changed.. in a twinkle of the eye.. everything and everyone will be changed.

Back to earth for a moment. It is our responsibility and duty to question authority. Those who unflinchingly accept authority are the mob. Give authority to the mob and you create a savage dictatorship. Give authority to a dictator and you have again a savage dictatorial society. Swing the pendulum between the dictatorship and the mob you have the rule of law and not of men. Ground the law in those things spiritual and you have laws which are fair and reasonable to all.

The mob and the oligarchs will inevitably twist and pervert the laws to become unnatural and savage to suit their needs. It is only a few which do this. It is undeniably purposeful with one intention and that is to bind the elephant with the web of a spider. We don't feel the web but we know its affects. This is the premise of control. This control goes deep into the mind of the intended subjects so as to beset everyone with unreasonable and questionable circumstances out of their control. In this was we can be broken to the point where a schism occurs and we accept what is unacceptable and look upon our masters as those who are of unquestionable authority. Like a minnow flipping on a hook ready to be cast into the ocean many feel as if the level of control is far out of their reach. It is not. Question authority...


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Really the ONLY question you should be contempating at this late date... is this in your meditations and prayers...


Whom do you Serve?!?... Well whom do you serve?


http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fusea ... id=3134462



I choose long ago... The being that out of Unconditional Love, Mercy and Peace literally reached down into my miserable life at the edge of abyss. An offered me its hand helping me Stand Up and courage an strength to walk out.

That being I call Mother Goddess.. you Christians call him Jesus.


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I bet a million its related to the mysterious uplift in Alaska.. The North American Plate..

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Breaking News..

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Mysterious tremors detected on San Andreas Fault

Jul 9 02:01 PM US/Eastern
By ALICIA CHANG
AP Science Writer


LOS ANGELES (AP) - Scientists have detected a spike in underground rumblings on a section of California's San Andreas Fault that produced a magnitude-7.8 earthquake in 1857.

What these mysterious vibrations say about future earthquakes is far from certain. But some think the deep tremors suggest underground stress may be building up faster than expected and may indicate an increased risk of a major temblor.

Researchers at the University of California, Berkeley, monitored seismic activity on the fault's central section between July 2001 and February 2009 and recorded more than 2,000 tremors. The tremors lasted mere minutes to nearly half an hour.

Unlike earthquakes, tremors occur deeper below the surface and the shaking lasts longer.

During the study period, two strong earthquakes hit—a magnitude-6.5 in 2003 and a magnitude-6.0 a year later. Scientists noticed the frequency of the tremors doubled after the 2003 quake and jumped six-fold after 2004.

Tremor episodes persist today. Though the frequency of tremors have declined since 2004, scientists are still concerned because they are still at a level that is twice as high as before the 2003 quake.

The team also recorded unusually strong rumblings days before the 2004 temblor.

Results of the research appear in Friday's issue of the journal Science. The work was funded by the U.S. Geological Survey and National Science Foundation.

"The fact that the tremors haven't gone down means the time to the next earthquake may come sooner," said Berkeley seismologist and lead researcher Robert Nadeau.

Nadeau first discovered tremors deep in the San Andreas Fault in 2005. Before that, the phenomenon was thought only to occur in Earth's subduction zones, where one tectonic plate dives beneath another.

USGS seismologist Susan Hough found the latest observations intriguing, but said it's too soon to know what they mean.

"We don't have enough data to know what the fault is doing in the long term," said Hough, who had no part in the research.

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not related but...
and i found this on GLP:

Abducted woman - Alien fetus autopsy VIDEO

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message835336/pg1


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A summary of the interview since its in Italian.

The original poster (whom seems Italian) gives a summary of whats being reported.

I've added the bold print to interesting parts..


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First part:

Giovanna, send a letter to the host that explain why she had to come out with this after so many years she is abducted since she was 4 year old now so it's 41 year they abduct here, basically she say they are creatures who dont know love nor hate, they have no sentiments, they need us to recreate a new hybrid race because they cannot reproduce themselves anymore due to radiation problem thwey encountered in their travels and on their own planets.

The autopsy, video is commented by the two man, one is the show host the other is a jurnalist expert on abduction reports, the autopsy start with what seems a placenta and the opening show what look like a umanoid fetus , they comments it can be anything but also it can be legit, then the jurnalist show a white powder, he say they analized this powder that was found inside Giovanna home and also in a small circle of burned grass outside his home, he say he brought this powder to a pshiscs lab and they analized it, the powder is the thing they use when they operate on humans bodies and it's the powder that using a black light lamp show limunescence on Giovanan body (video that have been taken after she was abducted) but is not phosphorus or anything like that, the lab result are shoking because it is formed by elements that are no luminescent in nature and this powder can be create don with very high magnetical fields the like ones who can be produced by the CERN accelearator, and Giovanna sure doesnt have such equipment in his house.

The second part will be about what she say, take in consideration thesre are other parts of the show on you tube none of which is the whole interview so some of the thing will say are said in other video aswell.

What I write here is the summ of the concept Giovanna say to the host on the various videos I found about the interview.

So she say, she was 4 year old when they started to abduct her for study, later on when she was older they started to artificially inseminate her, she had 18 births in all these years. She say they take the fetus out after 2 months and continue the growt themselves.

Asked how they do it, she answer they just come down cloaked in these ships then they send a ray and she lose consicence, sometime they come in the house aswell.

She say when she was young his father used to be upset at her because she was missing in plain night for hours at time, and he tought she was out with friends, when in fact she was abducted, usually abduction lasted around 3-5 hours.

Asked about these aliens she anwer, they are a race that cannot reproduce itself anymore due to genetic problems they are here because we are the most compatible race, in fact the only race they know of that are compatible with them, because we have in ourselves many alien different DNA parts. Some of which are compatible with their, we are the only chance for them to not go extinct.

They are preparing a Hibrid human race , in one of the video she say someting a bit disturbing "we have only 2 year left" she not comment more about this.

Shady: Oct 21 2011 the true date of the Maya Calander Change???? Doctor David Jacobs "The Threat" perchance????

Asked about where they are she said they are here, they come from far away and they are not going away, they have bases both on the earth on the moon and probably other planets.

Then she show the TAC about his brain, which show an implant in the center of his brain, she say they placed this metallic capsule in his brain with an instrument from his nose, she show also other photo taken by her and a friend after one of the abduction, which show signs of chirurgy, and the white substance they use when they touch her.

Asked what this substance is, she say they told her is to protect bot her and them from contact each other, she say also they inject virus in humans that for them are lethal and for us are not so they come back later take the blood from the abducted victim and process it to take out the anticorps that huamns can make and use that to cure themselves.

More..

In the video it show both the tac of his brain and the medical refert, that say "presence of non classifcable object".

When she was "pregnant" the last time before the aborted fetus she had a scan that is also present on the video, and the earthbeats of the fetus are shown but there is no fetus in the image, she say she dont understand how that is possible, the medic told her she had a histeric gravidance (dotn know how this translate in english medical terms) basically it was imaginary if that make any sense. She disnd trust them, later on she aborted that creature.

Other parts on other videos:

On another part of the interview on one of the various videos she talk about the fact that another race now also is starting to do this, this race is probably the one who has made the last artificial insemination that she aborted.

Asked about the other insemination she told one time they came back with what looked like a hybrid she knew it was his son, she was part human but had bif eyes like the aliens but the eyes where green, this creature told her "what is a mother and a son?" "what is that water that come out of my eyes?" he then told me because of this they will take me far away.

So basically this is almost all I remeber from the various pieces I which there was one unique video and not that stupid 10 min limit, it would be easier.


Ah, last thing, she said 2 race are at war when asked more about it, she said I cant comoment about it, I fear I cant talk about this, we have only 2 year left...

All the photo and trhe video shown in the video about UFo and the aliens are taken by her.

ShadowDancer if it's indeed 41 year they abduct her, all she know must be a lot more than what she just told, but the only thing she didnt really wanted to talk about was that supposed conflict between the gray and that not identified second ET race.

In the end she said people need to wake up becauase they are already here, and us that follow the UFO phenomenon already know that to be true.

Also she mentioned when the only time she saw one of his offspring hybrid was when he came in secret to meet her (imentioned what he said in another post), she said it was on a mission with a spaceship to gater ice from the pole and he got secretly on that mission to meet her, they take the ice from the pole to take it on their offworld bases where they use it has water. It was the first and only time in all these years he meet one of these hybrids.

I think now is all, so I leave the post for your considerations.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DIBLjG- ... r_embedded

The first part of the interview where she talk about all this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFBu4997 ... r_embedded

And another part found my commenter

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUyu_I2j ... r_embedded








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recall15 wrote:
not related but...
and i found this on GLP:

Abducted woman - Alien fetus autopsy VIDEO

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message835336/pg1


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Shady's News Service would like to ask the oh so mightly pooba Doctor Dan Burisch and Majestic Old Geezers Eagles their take on this video since supposedly Dan Burisch STOPPED abductions that the Tau-9 threaty meeting..

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"Ah, last thing, she said 2 race are at war when asked more about it, she said I cant comoment about it, I fear I cant talk about this, we have only 2 year left... "


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Cyberbird wrote:
recall15 wrote:
not related but...
and i found this on GLP:

Abducted woman - Alien fetus autopsy VIDEO

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message835336/pg1


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Some stills of the video for a True Scientific Research - and try to identify to what kind of Race belongs this Hybrid ?

The Ship type:
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Luminicent Dust marks:
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Abduction marks on the Skin:
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Head Entity Close up:
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Image Feat 4 finger Hand
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The ultra-violet marking. VERY typical of an actual abuction case very often found on the body of abductees and some contactees.

The Triangle burn marking also very common, although I haven't seen such a extrerme case of it before now. Usually on the abducttess when reported and shown.. its very very light almost faded...

A good example is found in the Cash-Ludlem Case out from Texas in the 1980s.


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From an anthropological prespective..

That missing pinky finger and no signs of a residual is very telling! I'd love to see a x-ray!

Clearly this thing did not under go a homind evolutionary branch!


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Hi recall15 and Shady,


My opinion is that it is most probably the Zeta Reticulans from Zeta Reticula 1 and possibly other rogue Zetas. They are the ones that have done the most abductions because their race is dying out and they have many genetic problems from all of the DNA manipulations their race has done over the centuries.

Now, also included into this picture from all I have read, these reptilians would also be guilty because they are supposed to be the ones who first abducted a group of the Zeta 1's and did genetic manipulations on them and DNA manipulations in order to take them over and control their race thousands of years ago, which in turn changed the Zeta 1's. They then became a small race of hybrids in their own right because of these reptilian manipulations of their DNA and race. So in essence, they are doing the same things that were done to them and apparently from all Alex Collier tells that his Andromedans have told him on the history of it all, many of the Zeta's, or at least the smaller ones most likely, are the biological clones that they send out to do their dirty work for them.

Now the main problems they have, according to the Andromedan materials is they have no "SOUL", they are mainly genetic, biological clones. Even though they functions, they function as a "group" mindset. One example given was like if you turn off their programing in one set of them, it then affects the entire set of them from functioning until the tv set is turned back on again so to speak. So this is one of the primary things they have been also trying to work to accomplish and that is to make more of their race with a "Soul" in them.

Also, according to this Andromedan informations, WE HUMANS are unique in this galaxy and this is why so many extraterrestrials are interested in us because we are human beings in a human biological physcial 3rd dimensional body, but on the soul level we are very highly evolved, intelligent consciousnesses who were involved in an experiment to experience "matter" and the only way to experience things was to come back down here and inhabit a physical 3rd dimensional body. But of course in this process, for whatever reason we are under this "veil" of blindness, meaning we do not remember everything so we functions as human beings and not as these highly evolved SOULS.

Now, in saying the above, he also said to that this "Andromedean Council" is not strictly all Andromedeans. It is a Galactic Council made up of approximately 134 different extra-terrestrial races. Approximately 78 of those races actually didn't want to have anything to do with us Humans on this planet Earth, but the others felt that because we Humans had been so manipulated by these other races, the Orion Group, Sirius B groups, these Zeta 1's, etc. and who ever else, because we are supposed to be physical composits of at least 22 other races in the physical sense, then they felt like that we should have the right to have time to NOT be manipulated by outside forces and so this Galactic Council made the decisions that ALL other extra-terrestrial races were to be off of this planet, and out of inside of this planet and off of the Moon also and get totally out of this area to give the Humans of Planet Earth time to see just how they done on their own without outside interventions.

This is why that date of August 12, 2003 was put out there. It was a deadline date for all extra-terrestrials to be out of here period. And the ones who did not go willingly, would be forced out of here and all of this was supposedly done. Of course I cannot prove it, nor can Alex Collier, but he says this is what he was told.

He has also said these Andromedeans told him that there has been many skirmishes going on out there with these various other ET races and that many in this Galactic Council have had a lot of casualities themselves because of all of this and because of their decision to do all of this.

One other point I want to mention he relayed was that when this decree was put out that a hughe Zeta 1 ship was caught, it was boarded and that they supposedly had hundreds of hybrid Zeta/Humans on board as well as approximately 1,000 small black box things that were housing 1,000 Human "SOULS". He said that the Andromedeans told him they were very surprised because they did not know that these Zeta 1's had this technology to do this and take a human soul and imprison it in that manner. He did say however, that his Andromedean contacts did NOT tell him what they did with these "SOULS" though. But they did tell him that the hybrids could not come back to Earth for various reasons of course.

Another thing was that when the Zetas took these hybrids they had genetically manipulated by impregnating female humans, they would take these hybrid babies "OUTSIDE" of this area and off of earth so that they would be fully aware of who and what they were and would not be under this "VEIL" that we HUMANS are under by being born on planet earth.

There is many many more points in all of what he has told, it is just all too much for one writing here now, but I see more so now of where he is coming from in what he tells also with all that has been happening and all we have heard and read of. In many ways his writings, lectures, etc. help to bring many more areas into perspective.

Now, in saying all of this another point I think should be mentioned is this. He said the Andromedeans have a problem with time in our linear time frame that we go by here on this planet because in their world they do not have time as we do nor count time as we do. They can give approximations and they have technology that can literally show pictures of our history here and all that has happened, but the concept of time as we know time is rather alien to them.

I mentioned before that I had written something here about "INTENT" and with all he says he has been told this "INTENT" is a major thing for us earth Humans and we just do not realize the value of this INTENT that we actually have. We also have EMOTIONS, and this is something that many of the extra-terrestrials do not have as it has been bred out of them over the millions of years of genetic manipulations of the races and this EMOTION is another factor that makes us HUMANS so important to all of these other ET races out there except for maybe the Orion group and the reptilians and Zeta 1's because they do not have EMOTIONS any more in the sense that we understand EMOTIONS. The Orions and reptilians think of humans as a comodity and as their property so to speak because they have also done much genetic DNA manipulations of these physical bodies our SOULS inhabit here.

But, recall15, you asked which race had done these abductions, and the pics you presented and the fingers being show, tells me it was Zeta 1's that abudcted this particular lady. Whether right or wrong of course I cannot prove, but this is my opinion on the matter.

He has also said to that a group of humans were found on another planet also, either Aldebaran or Arctiuris, can't remember which one now, but it started with an "A".

But in saying all of this one thing I feel I have concluded in all I have read he says he was told is this. Even though we humans think these various ET races out there are so much more highly evolved than we mere humans because of their TECHNOLOGIES, that apparently is mostly all they really have left is their TECHNOLOGIES because they have lost their EMOTIONS like we earth humans have, and many have lost their SOULS and by this occurring they have lost much more than they have gained from all of their highly evolved TECHNOLOGIES.

He has also said that the Andromedeans are totally amazed at us humans and our INTENT and how we have the abilities we have and do not realize them all or know about them all and how we have CREATED all of this we are experiencing here. He said one thing they said was that they were amazed how we could make up all we have and then go out and leave it all and it still be there when we came back home because everything is a holograph and our homes, posessions, etc. we have literally "created" it all with our INTENT and it does not disappear when we leave home and go out somewhere else for various time spans. Now, think about that will you????? LOL

And because of just WHO WE ARE really on the SOUL LEVELS is what makes us earth humans so important and why so many other ET races are so interested in us. And LOVE, this is something that we have to get back in touch with more so and LOVE because if we could INTEND and MANIFEST a SPACE of LOVE, then all of these regressive ET races could not tolerate that vibration of LOVE and they would all go away willingly then and leave us alone because they just couldn't stand being in that type of a vibration. So here again I say, ENERGY as everything, absolutely EVERYTHING is an ENERGY VIBRATION to a degree, and the particular ENERGY VIBRATION that WE put out is what occurs because of our INTENT and IF all of this be true folks, then we have the ability to use this INTENT and make all of this negativity go away once and for all and this is what these regressive and controlling POWERS THAT BE are so dreadfully AFRAID of and that is that we will figure all of this out and then they will not be able to control us any more on any levels period. And how we humans have to stick together and not let these outside forces divide us and cause us to turn against each other because this is what one of their main agendas have been in order to control us, and manipulate us. So the bottom line is, IT IS UP TO US, we just have to WAKE UP now and realize these various things.




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I'm curious where you got your information about the mother Goddess being Jesus. Is this something you have read someone or is this some sort of personal revelation to you. I'm curious because my information is different. The 666 is the number of a being who lives a life as a man but also lives another life as a female. When he is a female he calls himself the mother goddess according to my source.


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That being I call Mother Goddess.. you Christians call him Jesus.


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