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Welcome to the continuation of the Golden Thread, Volume 2009 4.7
All are welcome so long as the Golden Rule is observed among the participants.

This is the search for the 'truth' and Disclosure, that all men (and women, and children) that so desire learn the full and examined truth of the 'extraterrestrial reality' as it is known.

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But, recall15, you asked which race had done these abductions, and the pics you presented and the fingers being show, tells me it was Zeta 1's that abudcted this particular lady. Whether right or wrong of course I cannot prove, but this is my opinion on the matter.


Is interesting that this woman was abducted by 2 kind of Aliens with the same "Reproductive" agenda ie:

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she say, she was 4 year old when they started to abduct her for study, later on when she was older they started to artificially inseminate her, she had 18 births in all these years. She say they take the fetus out after 2 months and continue the growt themselves.


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On another part of the interview on one of the various videos she talk about the fact that another race now also is starting to do this, this race is probably the one who has made the last artificial insemination that she aborted.


in other words:

Are "they" fighting for the right to make hybrids here on Earth?

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Update from GONG @ GLP:

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Interesting twist on this come from this story


UFO Messages: Earth might be completely destroyed

Michael Cohen m.cohen@allnewsweb.com
In the last few months dramatic developments have occurred in regards to human/extra-terrestrial relations and communication. Small UFO probes communicating with earthlings have ceased sending their signals in mathematical sequences and are now using earthly languages to communicate. This has made the task of deciphering these messages totally superfluous. It has also made the UFO messages much clearer and has allowed for much more detail to be contained within the messages. It is believed that the decision to initially communicate in code was a choice and not a matter of capability. This alien civilization has in fact been watching humans and even discreetly guiding them for thousands of years.
It is now known that the civilization located in Andromeda Galaxy that is communicating with us via these UFO probes refer to themselves as ‘Axthadans’. They are approximately a thousand years ahead of humanity in terms of technology. Their appearance is akin to the race we refer to as ‘Greys’. This civilization has been entrusted by other more evolved aliens with the task of preparing humanity for possible integration into universal culture.
Axthadans are currently grooming over three hundred semi-technological civilizations for induction into a universal family of civilizations. Sadly, Most of these civilizations will not make it.

The Pentagon is now in possession of extensive footage and information regarding life on their planet: Axthada. This planet has been described as being of great beauty and it’s civilization as ‘utopian’ by earth’s standards.


It is now known that these aliens have issued earthlings with a warning: We have less than a decade to completely bring an end to all forms of warfare, racism, prejudice and economic exploitation. The Axthadans have sent messages stating that if we continue our evil ways we will destroy ourselves and this planet within fifty years.
In the event that aliens do disclose their presence to humanity and we continue to display any of these traits Planet Earth itself might have to be destroyed as a potential threat to universal harmony. In this scenario it is believed that innocent human victims of exploitation as well as other species will be resettled elsewhere .
In an ironic twist Axthadans are communicating with groups seen as perpetrators. As such immense pressure has been placed on the US administration. A decision was made to allow America’s economy to falter to allow for a redistribution of power and resources. Obviously the election of an African-American to the U.S Presidency was seen as a positive development by the Axthadans.
The question now is will this satisfy our alien custodians or will this be seen as mere window dressing? It is believed that the Axthadans mean business and will not tolerate any trace of the existing power-structure. Ego-driven and ultra-materialistic western culture seems slated for destruction.
Will Westerners adapt to a new reality where previously trodden on groups such as indigenous populations of countries like the US and Australia will be given leadership roles? Extraterrestrials have noted that the manner in which such groups were able to live for thousands of years in harmony with their environment translates into a safer, more peaceful universal existence. Western values of devour and destroy in an orgy of selfishness for the sole benefit of personal gain are said to be of immense concern to aliens.
We realise that many readers will find this information hard to believe, however for those who work on these issues on a daily basis it is all too real. Our sources are such individuals and we can reveal they are not just speaking to All News Web. Other publications have also been contacted.
In the words of Bob Dylan ‘The times they are a-changin’….again. Will humanity make the grade?

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http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message835336/pg3#12949781

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As a contactee I want you to know I haven't been sheltered to these aspects and will confirm your warranted concerns.

It's true, there are militaristic actions desired against our species for those reasons formerly stated.

The Problem...proof is still being opposed. What does an uninformed public concerning these problems chance's are, when attempts to inform, simple photo proof, etc,..are being interfered with?

They're trying to work this out. That's all I want comment about these terrible aspects.

Don't think it can't happen..all anyone needs to do is review our recorded history with the Prophets and what they warned, in their times, the public. What God would to do the ruling Kings if they not heed the prophets warning. A sinful nation never stands for long.
Now is an even bigger problem.

These intelligence can be pushy and aggressive getting us to clean up our mess.
IMHO this problematic aspect has yet to be fully realized.

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Post CLOSE ENCOUNTERS IN CROP CIRCLE
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From Colin Andrews:

Three Strange beings Reported at Crop Circle - Silbury Hill, Wiltshire, UK
Posted: 09 Jul 2009 08:59 AM PDT

ColinAndrews.net is reporting an event that occurred 7th July 2009, Silbury Hill, Wiltshire, England, near the crop circle located south west of the hill off the A4 highway.

This is the same location where on the 23 May 1994, four researchers (including one nuclear scientist) visiting a crop design in this field, witnessed intense military presence moments before they each experienced 45 minutes missing time and within a short while a further period of missing time. Each had red marks appear on their necks and had severe nose bleeds hours later.

This is also the site of a secret military stake out which took place during the 1990 Operation Blackbird, where over these fields a large unidentified white orb was filmed by the army.

The latest bizarre event took place yesterday morning (7th) at approximately 5:00 AM local time, when a off duty Wiltshire Police Sergeant was driving towards Marlborough on the A4 highway and about to pass Silbury Hill on his left. He looked to his right and witnessed three exceptionally tall beings inspecting the new crop circle which appeared there on the 5th July. He stopped his vehicle and watched them for several minutes because they stood out as odd. Each of them were well over six feet tall, each had blond hair and also they all were wearing one piece white suits, with hoods that had been dropped onto the back of their heads.

After a few minutes watching them, he said they appeared to be examining the crop in the circle, he shouted at them from a distance of about 400 yards but they ignored him. As soon as he entered the field, they became aware of him and ran at an amazing speed to the south, away from Silbury Hill. He said "I recognized that I could never catch up with them since they were exceptionally fast." He glanced away for just a few seconds and looked back to find that they had completely vanished. He became very uneasy and left the scene.

The police officer was very aware of hearing a static crackling sound in the field and around him. He said as the plants moved around, he could see the movement coincided with the level of sound, as if the static was effecting the plants by moving them.

He also started to experience a headache in the field, which became worse as the day went on and he could not shake it off all day.

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In regards to Brightstar's post from the end of the last thread...



My ideas about the Grays/Zeta's come from compiling the thousands accounts of them by way of insider tales, abducted accounts everything that's out there in public and then sifting/screening out the bits and threads that are common to all accounts or back up what's already been reported. And Lastly using my background in Anthropology namely what I know of physical and cultural evolution to formulate a good hyphsis of was is indeed going on with the Grays. Of course without a Gray/Zeta around to test that hypothesis. It remains a guesstimate at best.

1. The Zeta Reticulan star system contains two distinct species and civilizations of this there is a high amount of certainty given accounts. Possibly, even up to five by way of indirect accounts.

2. The Zeta Reticulain star system was "Seeded" or "genetically manufactured" but a yet unknown species which had its hands in genetically seeding the star system we know as Sol which contains as Earth, Mars and third planet which existed between Mars and Jupiter which was de storied either by design or by natural catastrophe

3. The Beings we call the Orion's/Pledidians/Nordics/Tall Whites. Were also genetically engineered "Seeded" by this yet Unknown Species and are or were the original "Genetic Template" for the creation of sentient life here in Star System of Sol. Because of this the Orion/Pledidians view Mankind as their 'younger brother'. Having this close 'kinship' with us They watch over us while we're in the 'galactic incubator' so to speak. and feel it is their right to watch over us to be our "Stewards". Yet Orion and Human have NO co evolutionary tract other then biological commonality.

Begin that they view us as their relations, they have time to time attempted to socially evolve us once we reached Homo Sapiens status. They in essence gave us spiritual and moral code by pretending to be "the Gods"

Yet our ultimate Creator(s) were this Unknown Species which I believe remain a total mystery to both the Zetaians and Orions. No one "out there" on the countless of "seeded worlds" have ever directly encountered this Unknown Species yet they know it/they exists in the Universe.

4. The Original genetic template of the Zeta Gray we are all familiar with was based on INSECT form of life, not reptilian, not homid, but insect, A species that closely shares characteristics with our own ants and bees, wasps, even termites. Hive society and social structure the Hive Mind if you will. Yet today after countless eons of evolution and with the infusion of "seeding" genetic alteration they too Share characteristics common to us all mammalian life forms. such as awareness of Self, Nurturing of Young, they may very well even have rudimentary understand of Love, Empathy, Self Preservation (as opposed to Hive Preservation).. But they have a major psychological conflict going on.. Their INSTICT is still Hive orientated and centered.

Are we mammalian based life forms better then theirs? Of Course Not! Just look at the Hive cultures we have on this planet the Ants and Bees (or even our fictional based Star Trek Borg)from a anthological point of view their Society is perfectly suited for perpetuation the Species in ANY given environment. It functions like a well oiled machine, without conflict what so ever. As a Hive Mind working in tantdum there is no obstacle that could with stand them. see example the South American Army Ants which will literally build complex living bridges across rivers in order to get to a new food source to sustain and perpetuate the Hive... Indeed the Hive Mind could be argued as ultimate utopian society for within it all of Socialological Conflicts that arise in a complex society simply do not exist nor arise.. Every individual knows from birth its place and purpose in the over all scene of things and does not question it.

YET

For us Species of different evolutionary origins the Hive Mind is frighteningly strange and ultimately death, for within it means death of the Self Awareness.

I believe that Zeta Gray's, like with all Sentient Beings want to spread their idea of perfection to the rest of the galaxy. They view it as the Ultimate Good within their society, they view their model of how things should operate and function as the Ultimate Good for Galaxy itself which is in Chaos according to their perceptions.

Example look that our Invasion of Iraq what was the stated philosophical objective???? Anyone??? "To Spread Western Style Democracy To The Middle East" Noble objective by United States and Britain.. But you see the Middle East cultures took a whole different root to Civilization.. and in 2009 some six years after the invasion Chaos rules supreme as to diametrical opposed philosophies come into conflict.

The Zeta/Grays Out There are trying to do the same.. They are attempting to bring Order to what they instinctually view as chaos. An thus by accounts of Abducted, Contac tee's and alike.. We are told that Orions and Zeta Grays have fought great WARS the last being some by some accounts as far back as 5,000 BC to 0 AD. Possibly within our very own sky and upon this planet. This War resulted in this Planet of our being re-classified as "Of Limits" to both sides..

But in 1937 - 1952 that all changed when mankind developed the first stage of becoming a Civilization in and of itself in braking the barrier of splitting the Atom.

At that stage Sol and Earth became was taken off the 'no contact' list. And the Zeta Gray's were the First to arrive.. and shake hands with Ike, PTB and MIC Military Industrial Complex in the form of Majestic Twelve.

Today our PTBs and MICs see the mistake they made in making a deal with the wrong side.. Meanwhile Zeta ships are snatching up abductees left and right, hybridizing at tremendous speed... and well in their eyes fixing what's wrong with this planet.

To use the analogy... Earth is Docile European Honey Bee Hive... and Well the African Killer Bee (The Zeta Grays) have arrived to hybridize this hive. Right before our eyes. Hybrids are being introduced within our Society, Abductees altered all in the ultimate goal of one day waking up and finding this Honey Bee Hive Africanized totally.

Meanwhile our PTBS and MICS have resigned themselves to "The New Order" either have gone over to that side completely or are too Service to Self (STS) to give a shit to lift a finger as they save their own asses form Beings they perceive as unstop able.

For us everyday folks and humans.. The Zeta/Grays do indeed pose a GREAT Danger, for ultimately it means living in a Zeta Gray society... Death of the Self and becoming a Drone within their Society. Which to the Grays is Good Thing! To the Gray's it means Utopia! Which they are promising the Abductees as their viva sectioned alive, implanted and impregnated with their Hybrids.


5. The Zeta Grays are Indeed a Dying Species,

- Genetically altered by hybridization programs with hundreds other Civilizations,
- Or by effects of Warfare with countless other species they've en counted..
- Or by their won alteration of their Spices by way of Genetic Engineering
- Or simply by way of nature and being a breed Species with no infusion of outside genetic material. IE they have become Clones.

What ever the case may be

The Zeta Grays today a walking Genetic Mutation. Unable to procreate naturally and possibly suffering from extensive physical retarded growth (a perpetual state of fetal development or larva stage as the case maybe)

They NEED a Host to carry their off spring.

Much like certain predator species of wasps and insects on this planet.. Will seek out and impregnate a host with their egg, That off spring will develop within the host ultimately kill it and emerge as adult version of that wasp or insect.

This is the ultimate reason behind the Abduction and Impregnation of Human Females. In short, the abductee ARE their incubators as well as source material for the Hybrid.

Ultimately their (The Zeta Gray) goal is to produce a Hybrid that can carry their off-spring to full term.

They NEED us as Host Species and in the process they will Hybridize our Species.

These stories of them being able to Clone themselves may be true. But a Clone of Clone of Clone of a Clone will ultimately FAIL due to genetic damage and without a infusion of new DNA.

These stories of them being able to transfer consciousness from one clone to another... Bullshit.

The Evidence (Abduction Phenomena) speaks loudly they need HOST bodies to carry out their reproductive cycle. Cloning may possibly be involved in the period between finding viable genetic Hosts.. but its not long term.. They need HOSTS to preptualate their species.

6. The Orions/Pleadians/Tall Whites may in fact be our only hope at this late stage.. The Stewards that oversaw this Planets early development and our development..

But if Charles Hall description of them is correct... Then

Its better for humanity to be treated as Pet.... then preyed upon by a Predatory Species..

An I'm sure your Cat or Dog would most heartedly agree... if you were able to ask them that right now while they are at your feet..

..... More later need to run some errands.



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Dex wrote:
From blue (ufo-unbound)
Cross posting:

From Colin Andrews:

Three Strange beings Reported at Crop Circle - Silbury Hill, Wiltshire, UK
Posted: 09 Jul 2009 08:59 AM PDT
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2009 ... l2009.html

ColinAndrews.net is reporting an event that occurred 7th July 2009, Silbury Hill, Wiltshire, England, near the crop circle located south west of the hill off the A4 highway.

This is the same location where on the 23 May 1994, four researchers (including one nuclear scientist) visiting a crop design in this field, witnessed intense military presence moments before they each experienced 45 minutes missing time and within a short while a further period of missing time. Each had red marks appear on their necks and had severe nose bleeds hours later.

This is also the site of a secret military stake out which took place during the 1990 Operation Blackbird, where over these fields a large unidentified white orb was filmed by the army.

The latest bizarre event took place yesterday morning (7th) at approximately 5:00 AM local time, when a off duty Wiltshire Police Sergeant was driving towards Marlborough on the A4 highway and about to pass Silbury Hill on his left. He looked to his right and witnessed three exceptionally tall beings inspecting the new crop circle which appeared there on the 5th July. He stopped his vehicle and watched them for several minutes because they stood out as odd. Each of them were well over six feet tall, each had blond hair and also they all were wearing one piece white suits, with hoods that had been dropped onto the back of their heads.

After a few minutes watching them, he said they appeared to be examining the crop in the circle, he shouted at them from a distance of about 400 yards but they ignored him. As soon as he entered the field, they became aware of him and ran at an amazing speed to the south, away from Silbury Hill. He said "I recognized that I could never catch up with them since they were exceptionally fast." He glanced away for just a few seconds and looked back to find that they had completely vanished. He became very uneasy and left the scene.

The police officer was very aware of hearing a static crackling sound in the field and around him. He said as the plants moved around, he could see the movement coincided with the level of sound, as if the static was effecting the plants by moving them.

He also started to experience a headache in the field, which became worse as the day went on and he could not shake it off all day.

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Shady Groves wrote:
In regards to Brightstar's post from the end of the last thread...
My ideas about the Grays/Zeta's come from compiling the thousands accounts of them by way of insider tales, abducted accounts everything that's out there in public and then sifting/screening out the bits and threads that are common to all accounts or back up what's already been reported. And Lastly using my background in Anthropology namely what I know of physical and cultural evolution to formulate a good hyphsis of was is indeed going on with the Grays. Of course without a Gray/Zeta around to test that hypothesis. It remains a guesstimate at best.

1. The Zeta Reticulan star system contains two distinct species and civilizations of this there is a high amount of certainty given accounts. Possibly, even up to five by way of indirect accounts.

2. The Zeta Reticulain star system was "Seeded" or "genetically manufactured" but a yet unknown species which had its hands in genetically seeding the star system we know as Sol which contains as Earth, Mars and third planet which existed between Mars and Jupiter which was de storied either by design or by natural catastrophe

3. The Beings we call the Orion's/Pledidians/Nordics/Tall Whites. Were also genetically engineered "Seeded" by this yet Unknown Species and are or were the original "Genetic Template" for the creation of sentient life here in Star System of Sol. Because of this the Orion/Pledidians view Mankind as their 'younger brother'. Having this close 'kinship' with us They watch over us while we're in the 'galactic incubator' so to speak. and feel it is their right to watch over us to be our "Stewards". Yet Orion and Human have NO co evolutionary tract other then biological commonality.

Begin that they view us as their relations, they have time to time attempted to socially evolve us once we reached Homo Sapiens status. They in essence gave us spiritual and moral code by pretending to be "the Gods"

Yet our ultimate Creator(s) were this Unknown Species which I believe remain a total mystery to both the Zetaians and Orions. No one "out there" on the countless of "seeded worlds" have ever directly encountered this Unknown Species yet they know it/they exists in the Universe.

4. The Original genetic template of the Zeta Gray we are all familiar with was based on INSECT form of life, not reptilian, not homid, but insect, A species that closely shares characteristics with our own ants and bees, wasps, even termites. Hive society and social structure the Hive Mind if you will. Yet today after countless eons of evolution and with the infusion of "seeding" genetic alteration they too Share characteristics common to us all mammalian life forms. such as awareness of Self, Nurturing of Young, they may very well even have rudimentary understand of Love, Empathy, Self Preservation (as opposed to Hive Preservation).. But they have a major psychological conflict going on.. Their INSTICT is still Hive orientated and centered.

Are we mammalian based life forms better then theirs? Of Course Not! Just look at the Hive cultures we have on this planet the Ants and Bees (or even our fictional based Star Trek Borg)from a anthological point of view their Society is perfectly suited for perpetuation the Species in ANY given environment. It functions like a well oiled machine, without conflict what so ever. As a Hive Mind working in tantdum there is no obstacle that could with stand them. see example the South American Army Ants which will literally build complex living bridges across rivers in order to get to a new food source to sustain and perpetuate the Hive... Indeed the Hive Mind could be argued as ultimate utopian society for within it all of Socialological Conflicts that arise in a complex society simply do not exist nor arise.. Every individual knows from birth its place and purpose in the over all scene of things and does not question it.

YET

For us Species of different evolutionary origins the Hive Mind is frighteningly strange and ultimately death, for within it means death of the Self Awareness.

I believe that Zeta Gray's, like with all Sentient Beings want to spread their idea of perfection to the rest of the galaxy. They view it as the Ultimate Good within their society, they view their model of how things should operate and function as the Ultimate Good for Galaxy itself which is in Chaos according to their perceptions.

Example look that our Invasion of Iraq what was the stated philosophical objective???? Anyone??? "To Spread Western Style Democracy To The Middle East" Noble objective by United States and Britain.. But you see the Middle East cultures took a whole different root to Civilization.. and in 2009 some six years after the invasion Chaos rules supreme as to diametrical opposed philosophies come into conflict.

The Zeta/Grays Out There are trying to do the same.. They are attempting to bring Order to what they instinctual view as chaos. An thus by accounts of Abducted, Contactee's and alike.. We are told that Orions and Zeta Grays have fought great WARS the last being some by some accounts as far back as 5,000 BC to 0 AD. Possibly within our very own sky and upon this planet. This War resulted in this Planet of our being re-classified as "Of Limits" to both sides..

But in 1937 - 1952 that all changed when mankind developed the first stage of becoming a Civilization in and of itself in braking the barrier of splitting the Atom.

At that stage Sol and Earth became was taken off the 'no contact' list. And the Zeta Gray's were the First to arrive.. and shake hands with Ike, PTB and MIC Military Industrial Complex in the form of Majestic Twelve.

Today our PTBs and MICs see the mistake they made in making a deal with the wrong side.. Meanwhile Zeta ships are snatching up abductees left and right, hybridizing at tremendous speed... and well in their eyes fixing what's wrong with this planet.

To use the analogy... Earth is Docile European Honey Bee Hive... and Well the African Killer Bee (The Zeta Grays) have arrived to hybridize this hive. Right before our eyes. Hybrids are being introduced within our Society, Abductees altered all in the ultimate goal of one day waking up and finding this Honey Bee Hive Africanized totally.

Meanwhile our PTBS and MICS have resigned themselves to "The New Order" either have gone over to that side completely or are too Service to Self (STS) to give a shit to lift a finger as they save their own asses form Beings they perceive as unstop able.

For us everyday folks and humans.. The Zeta/Grays do indeed pose a GREAT Danger, for ultimately it means living in a Zeta Gray society... Death of the Self and becoming a Drone within their Society. Which to the Grays is Good Thing! To the Gray's it means Utopia! Which they are promising the Abductees as their viva sectioned alive, implanted and impregnated with their Hybrids.


5. The Zeta Grays are Indeed a Dying Species,

- Genetically altered by hybridization programs with hundreds other Civilizations,
- Or by effects of Warfare with countless other species they've en counted..
- Or by their won alteration of their Spices by way of Genetic Engineering
- Or simply by way of nature and being a breed Species with no infusion of outside genetic material. IE they have become Clones.

What ever the case may be

The Zeta Grays today a walking Genetic Mutation. Unable to procreate naturally and possibly suffering from extensive physical retarded growth (a perpetual state of fetal development or larva stage as the case maybe)

They NEED a Host to carry their off spring.

Much like certain predator species of wasps and insects on this planet.. Will seek out and impregnate a host with their egg, That off spring will develop within the host ultimately kill it and emerge as adult version of that wasp or insect.

This is the ultimate reason behind the Abduction and Impregnation of Human Females. In short, the abductee ARE their incubators as well as source material for the Hybrid.

Ultimately their (The Zeta Gray) goal is to produce a Hybrid that can carry their off-spring to full term.

They NEED us as Host Species and in the process they will Hybridize our Species.

These stories of them being able to Clone themselves may be true. But a Clone of Clone of Clone of a Clone will ultimately FAIL due to genetic damage and without a infusion of new DNA.

These stories of them being able to transfer consciousness from one clone to another... Bullshit.

The Evidence (Abduction Phenomena) speaks loudly they need HOST bodies to carry out their reproductive cycle. Cloning may possibly be involved in the period between finding viable genetic Hosts.. but its not long term.. They need HOSTS to preptualate their species.

6. The Orions/Pleadians/Tall Whites may in fact be our only hope at this late stage.. The Stewards that oversaw this Planets early development and our development..

But if Charles Hall description of them is correct... Then

Its better for humanity to be treated as Pet.... then preyed upon by a Predatory Species..

An I'm sure your Cat or Dog would most heartedly agree... if you were able to ask them that right now while they are at your feet..

..... More later need to run some errands.

Shady


Excellent Summary!

Meanwhile our PTBS and MICS have resigned themselves to "The New Order" either have gone over to that side completely or are too Service to Self (STS) to give a shit to lift a finger as they save their own asses

It is never too late, wake up!

Beings they perceive as unstoppable

Die or live free, man up you sissy PTB/MICS
Higher Power is in charge.


So the Grey’s watching humans, discreetly guiding them for thousands of years to do warfare, racism, prejudice and economic exploitation unto themselves.

While I would prefer a gentle introductions and respect to build trust and friendship with the Orions/Pleadians/Tall Whites.
I wonder why they do not do a surgical strike against those promoting warfare, racism, prejudice and economic exploitation.

Perhaps it is that they have waited to intervene due to past events or worry about a worship effect.

While the introduction of force would definitely put our relationship on difficult ground, due to misunderstand from the common man/woman, I think humanity could overcome the trauma.

Perhaps Orions/Pleadians/Tall Whites are having difficultly in balancing tough Love verses ultimate destruction which is uncomfortable to them.
If the choice is Pet or alien brood host to a parasite, it would be better to a pet.

If we were just a distraction to Orions/Pleadians/Tall Whites and disposable, I would expect they would not even bother to be involved at any level.

The Human condition has been inflicted upon humanity by the suppression of truth and honesty. We have been under control for so long we have become addicted to it. Those in control wish to remain in control and the suppression of truth is the tool that they have. After thousand of years of being manipulate into thinking the enemy is “them” when it is really the elite controllers of ‘us’ (some under Grey/supernatural influences). These elite have used discontent, repression of rights, truth, and basic life needs to further addict us to ‘the life style of control’. It is almost as if we are all in a long term Human Experiment to see how addicting control is.

Perhaps the Universe will not accept a planet of refugee victims with so much emotional baggage (even if we solve the issues of politics,religion and finance). So we may be in a game of Chicken, to see who blinks first. Our ideology of who we are and how act must change dramatically to fit into the current Universe.

We must release our control to handle the emotional change that joining the Universe entails. We humans are wrapped in emotion and have difficult in changing our minds once it has been made up, perhaps this will be our downfall. I feel like earth is the poster child of the universe and even a pet must be trained.


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I'll answer that with the Christian and Hebrewic Text:

Genesis 1: 26-27

26: Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, in our likeness and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth and over all the creatures that move along the ground."

27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him [mankind] male and female he created them.


Now clearly the being we call God gives rather exact discription and image of itself. It uses the purals "us" "our" and "them" which states that what ever this being we call God is it has both a masculine and femine compoent. An it required BOTH for the act of creation!

So logically it stands to reason there is a God and Goddess

Now being a simple Baltic Pagan Latvian of the Batlic Tribe and Peoples which includes the Estonians, Latvians and Lithuianas. The Last Recorded Pagans of Europe I might add. Before our forced conversion to Christianity. AND Anthropologically documented to be the Oldest still living Indo-European Culture on the face of Earth .. A Crusade (Northern Crusade) that lasted in direct conflict from the late 1280s AD to !638 AD and a signed truce not victory with the Catholic Chruch with the Baltic Pagan Nobliity (in this case Lithuianan-Polish Dutchy). We Balts still retain deeply embed in our culture our pre-Christian culture and identity.

In Baltic Creation myth.

ALL of creation was brought into being by a sexual union between


Dievs – (God) was the supreme god. The same word refers to the Christian deity in modern Latvian. In ancient Latvian mythology, Dievs was not just the father of the gods, he was the essence of them all. Every other deity was a different aspect or manifestation of Dievs; this is most true with Māra and Laima. The name Dievs was also interpreted as Sky. Though it is told in ancient beliefs, that he courted Saule, no actual wife is known. His sons are known as Dieva dēli. He is historically associated with the father gods of Indo-European religions as Tyr, Zeus, Jupiter and Dyaus Pita.

Māra – ([[ from whuch we get the word Mary]]) is the highest-ranking goddess, a feminine Dievs. She may be thought as alternate side of Dievs (like in Yin Yang). Other Latvian goddesses, sometimes all of them, are considered her alternate aspects. Mara was widely known to all of pagan cultures. Her documented symbol.. The Serpent a creature of the "other world" or supernatural world.

And in Baltic Culture the Care of Mankind was Intrusted to a third Goddess

Laima – (laim- (luck-)) was a goddess in both Latvian and Lithuanian mythology. She is the personification of fate and of luck, both good and bad. She was associated with childbirth, marriage, death, proliferation, and domesticity. She was also the patron of pregnant women. Some sources proclaim three Laima's, which means that either this goddess had three aspects or this could have been general name for three deities. Alternative names include Laime, Laimė (Lithuanian), Laimas māte, Laimes māte ("Mother of Luck").

Btw my Pagan Grandmom was a Priestess of Laima's gave birth to my Uncle in a Baltic Hot Springs Birthing Cave, attended by her Priestess hood. In the Old pagan days it was taboo for a man to be involved with Birth this most sacred and magical rite. They were killed on the spot.. But by my Grandfathers time. The village men had to wait for the child to be brought to them by the High Priestss and dedicated with a name and tribal membership in a Oak Grove dedicated to Dievs.

My Grand Father Adam was Roman Catholic/Christian deeply devoted to Christ.. but even he used to say. "Always mind your Elders and honor them. Before this 'new' God there was Dievs (Supereme God)." ... The Ironic thing of all ... The Roman Catholic Priest that baptised my Uncle and later all of us in USA, his Mother was the High Priestess of Laima's.. It was well known well up into her 90s she'd grab him by ear at times and teach him a lesson about Theology..lol"

.... In anycase


If one studies and I do mean really studies the old Pagan Creation Myths of Europe, the Balkans, and Middle East (What is left to us about knowledge of them, that wasn't burned and destroied by fanatical adherents to New Religion) You will find that Pagan Cultures were VERY well versed in the Concept of the Trinity long before Christianity... That the Creation myths of these cultures always contain elements of this Pagan Triadic Diety

And that Creation was brought into being by a Union of the God in both Male and Female Aspect.

Indeed in the very early greek christian and later gnostic texts God is spoken of in this Trinity State of being... in the original Greek.. Father, Son and Sophia (Greek Goddess of Wisdom).. later under Emperor Constantine and at the Council of Trent, he ordered the theologians to removed all reference to Sophia and replace it with "Holy Spirit" or as I like to call the Holy Spook. Since by that time Gnostism was decleared a Hersay by the Roman Catholic Church..


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I'm curious where you got your information about the mother Goddess being Jesus. Is this something you have read someone or is this some sort of personal revelation to you. I'm curious because my information is different. The 666 is the number of a being who lives a life as a man but also lives another life as a female. When he is a female he calls himself the mother goddess according to my source.


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It may be stepping out of bounds here but I like to hear view points.

I believe that Supreme Creator aka Higher power influences how ET's exist/work.

Therefore it is part of ET reality and if it kept relative to the ET topic would it be acceptable?


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Btw way while I'm at it.. A very good depiction of how Christian Knights rode into the Baltics to Bring the World of God...

This clip is fictional BUT is very very true to Historic Fact of "The Northern Crusade"

To this day in Lativan tongue... we have a few terms for Christians... which roughly translate to "Ignorate savages!"

I really love this clip ... The Pagan Horsemen charge the symbol of evil and do a notice job of dispatching it ;)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWP98G-SG1Q

This is a fictional story. The year is 1250 AD, The Teutonic Order after being informed from their spies have sent three large forces to deal with the Pagans. One of the forts is on the outskirts of the Livonia Province southwest of Riga. The Teutonic order has sent diplomats to Novgorod to ask assistance against the Pagans, but talks are not going well when a severed head of two diplomats have returned to Riga. The Teutonic Order is opening talks now with the Danes. This is only the beginning.


And a Proud Modern Day Latvian Pagan and Folk Artist...

The People the Teutonic Knights considered Savages...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAwRI1Ahzvw

Laima Jansone performs a variation of a traditional Latvian folk melody.
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just add to that Mix the Annunaki influence/agendas
in all the cultures around the world...
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and how they wanted to return...but FAIL!!!

and their "Ground Crew" call for the NWO...

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I suspect that archeological artifacts such as these, even Empires such as the Babyloains, Egyptians, Maya, Inca etc etc What we term as "The Great Civilizations" were in fact "Gargo Cults" that sprung up after the Annunaki left. Leaving behind their knowledge and in some cases advanced technologies.

Without the Annunaki (I use the term generally here, as refering to Ancient ET Visitors not persay in regards to Nibru legend) to guide and lead Early man. Civilization collasped into a Dark Ages.

In the Great Halls where the Annuaki once held royal courts.. The Empty thrones became the base for Statues and Idols.. Where the civilization thrown into chaos at their departure would pay homage to idols beseeching their return. You might have very well have found in lets say the temples of Egypt.. the very craft that the Annunaki once used to fly across the skies.. over time even they became idols with trongs of worshipers attempting to make it fly again with prayers.. sort of speak.

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Ancient Egyptian Depecting Anubis (God of the underworld directing Osris to shoot Arrows at the God Set? Isn't it funny how Set looks like some sort of technology Maybe if you shoot enough arrows at it it might work??

Meanwhle the powerstructure was also mimiced by early civilizations.. Where once the Annunaki were "gods" living among them from where they directed mankid to evolve. Now when they were gone, they were replaced by just men with no knowledge how to make the artifacts work or operate. An those that select few that did well even they de-evolved and used that for there own purposes instead of what it was meant to be..


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just add to that Mix the Annunaki influence/agendas
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and how they wanted to return...but FAIL!!!

and their "Ground Crew" call for the NWO...


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Thanks for your very detailed reply. I'm not a religous person. You are much more religous than I am. So I'm not going to debate any of the points you made even though I think your logic is faulty in some places. I was curious about your use of the words "mother goddess" as I've heard the same exact words before from my own contact experiences and would have wanted to hear what you were told if your knowledge of such terms came the same way. Sort of comparing notes is all. You may or may not have read some "channelled" info that is pretty recent that I think may come from aliens that came here areound 1998. These aliens incarnate and two thirds of their lives is as their chosen sex and one third of their lives are as the opposite sex. Say they live three lives. There first life may be as a woman. Their second life as a man and then their third life again as a woman. 666 is the number given for the middle life as a man. The third life this being is again a woman and in this life she is known as the mother goddess. She also has a number that is different than the 666 and is the number for mother goddess. Her first life also has a number. She can place these three numbers together in such a way that it looks like a telephone number. I actually had an alien lady give me her telephone number once. It makes you think of the movie E.T. when E.T. says, "E.T. call home now." Not all aliens practice this. There is another "telephone number" is you want to call it that that is from another race of aliens. One of the three digits is the number 144. These aliens will remove themselves whenever those first aliens come for the very purpose that they do not wish to have sex with them. I've heard them say things like, ".....Heat warning. A 666 can not have sex with a 144...." The Pleadians that Billy Meier was/is in touch with once told one person that there number was approximately 144,000. And they removed themselves from the planet when another group of aliens came here in the late nineties. They are supposedly from Sirius. I believe they came here in 1998. And they are aliens that have to do with the number 666. Recall 15 posted and interpreted a crop circle that he says gives the number 814 on one side of it. 1998 is a number that is divisible by the number 666. It is the beginning of the 4th 666 year period since the number zero. The number is expressed as 418. The three six's are added together to get the number 18 and with each new period of 666 years the number is increased by one. So 318 and 218 are also numbers that have to do with the number 666 as is the number 418. I could explain how you get from the number 418 to the number 814 but I'd be giving out way too much information and too many secrets.


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I have to say it this one time.. I WHOLE HEARTEDLY Agree Prince Charles on this issue.




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Just 96 months to save world, says Prince Charles

The price of capitalism and consumerism is just too high, he tells industrialists

By Robert Verkaik

Thursday, 9 July 2009

Capitalism and consumerism have brought the world to the brink of economic and environmental collapse, the Prince of Wales has warned in a grandstand speech which set out his concerns for the future of the planet.

The heir to the throne told an audience of industrialists and environmentalists at St James's Palace last night that he had calculated that we have just 96 months left to save the world.

And in a searing indictment on capitalist society, Charles said we can no longer afford consumerism and that the "age of convenience" was over.
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The Prince, who has spoken passionately about the environment before, said that if the world failed to heed his warnings then we all faced the "nightmare that for so many of us now looms on the horizon".

Charles's speech was described as his first attempt to present a coherent philosophy in which he placed the threat to the environment in the context of a failing economic system.

The Prince, who is advised by the leading environmentalists Jonathon Porritt and Tony Juniper, said that even the economist Adam Smith, father of modern capitalism, had been aware of the short-comings of unfettered materialism.

Delivering the annual Richard Dimbleby lecture, Charles said that without "coherent financial incentives and disincentives" we have just 96 months to avert "irretrievable climate and ecosystem collapse, and all that goes with it."

Charles has recently courted controversy by intervening in planning disputes, most notably the battle over the Chelsea Barracks design in London. It is also known that he writes privately to ministers when he wishes to put his concerns on record.

Now, he seems more willing to embrace much wider political issues in a much more public forum.

He confided last night: "We face the dual challenges of a world view and an economic system that seem to have enormous shortcomings, together with an environmental crisis – including that of climate change – which threatens to engulf us all."

Despite his attack on the materialism of the modern age, the Prince has been criticised for his own indulgences, including dozens of staff to run his homes and hundreds of thousands of pounds spent travelling around the world. While his private estates on the Duchy of Cornwall generate record profits his tax bill was lower than the year before.

Last night the Prince said: "But for all its achievements, our consumerist society comes at an enormous cost to the Earth and we must face up to the fact that the Earth cannot afford to support it. Just as our banking sector is struggling with its debts – and paradoxically also facing calls for a return to so-called 'old-fashioned', traditional banking – so Nature's life-support systems are failing to cope with the debts we have built up there too.

"If we don't face up to this, then Nature, the biggest bank of all, could go bust. And no amount of quantitative easing will revive it."


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one of the still images of the fetus autopsy has been hacked, right now....

Someone did not like it... let me guess SNED´s?

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I herby authorize the Mods of GT to make the necesary Fixes in the post of the Stills of the Futus Alien Autopsy!!! ...

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Apparently they hacked the most damning images against Burisch's story..lol

Oh boy how typical..


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BUT Ladies and Gentlemen take note... They by their actions have just validated the video and interview as ledgit!! so if you haven't I'd suggust you make copies of that video interview..

You have just seen apart of the TRUTH they are attempting to cover up!



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So Majestic spooks we know that the ABDUCTIONS have not stopped and are now in fact accelerating towards a climax within two years.. I guess danny was a complete failure at that Tau - 9 treaty..

Or as suspect. YOU PTBs/MIC were scammed by the J-Rods.. You were taken as suckers you are ;)


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This isn't a forum for a Theological Debate... If you'd like to continue let me know in private.


It may be stepping out of bounds here but I like to hear view points.

I believe that Supreme Creator aka Higher power influences how ET's exist/work.

Therefore it is part of ET reality and if it kept relative to the ET topic would it be acceptable?


Yes, of course it is, mountaintiger (okay, I'll use MT7). Theology is as connected to the ET reality as exo-biology is. I'm a firm believer in the proposition that each time the Earth goes through its 'cleansing' and subsequent soul-harvest - for that is the purpose of 3D life on this world, IMHO - a caretaker race is given the opportunity to assist in the process, and this privilege/responsibility is bestowed upon them by the galactic elders (call it your Council of Worlds, Federation of Planets, etc) who are in turn informed and instructed from the higher entitities stretching all the way to the Creator itself (to avoid gender bias).

This is a hallmark of the many early books in Oahspe, in which the reader is introduced to many varied and different spiritual personalities who are "sons" or "daughters" of Jehovih. Naturally the words "flying saucer" and "mother-ship" aren't used, but "avalanza" and other odd names are understood to mean the same. I was struck in the first week of reading that book, which I could barely put down until I had read about half-way through it (it's longer than the Christian Bible), of how one of the first caretaker governor-gods of Earth that preceded the arrival of the Annunaki was about to finish his tour of duty, and took a trip around the planet to see how his humans were doing. He was aghast to find that many of them were so struck with fright when his airship descended that they died on-the-spot; that was when they determined they had to disguise their craft as clouds, so as not to cause premature death among their charges. The angels at that time (those entities putting in their Peace Corps-like work on Earth) grumbled to the governor-god that the souls of the primitive humans were always crying out for the essences of fish and fowl, which they thought were 'foul'; I suppose the 'Class of the 21st Century' will be known for their desire for the essence of Big Macs and Whoppers, Chanel #5 and new-car smell. At least all the motherships are alleged to have huge orchestras of guitarists and trumpeters, choirs and drummers when they leave the Earth plane with their cargo of souls......apparently music is even more important in 4D than it is in 3D.

In any event..........

So, theological discourse is encouraged because that's what it all comes down to in the end anyway; it's all a 'matter' of spirit.

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Regarding abductions.....

How many have contemplated the probability that indeed ET sucker-punched Majestic on the "abduction" issue, just like they did on the "flying saucer" issue? "Here, humans, are the flying saucers you want. In exchange you let us abduct say 10,000 humans annually for our studies."

Majestic, looking around at each other and thinking "wow, we could really dominate the world with these flying saucer craft! and all we have to do is let these aliens have a bunch of our homeless deadbeats!" Turning to ET, they said "Sure!"

Even without spelling it out in the treaty, Majestic would've felt compelled to keep such an agreement secret. It wouldn't do for the rest of the world to know they had ET assistance in getting the craft, and what kind of sick deal they made to get them. In the meantime, the aliens abducted humans anyway, not because Majestic 'gave' them the right to, because Majestic didn't have jurisdiction to begin with......the soul of the individual human had to volunteer to be a 'parent' to the new model of humanoid that was being constructed to take the place of this model we're using now....much like Cro-Magnon took the place of the Neanderthal. (Or do I have that backwards?) And as for the saucers? Sure, we got at least NINE of them, all parked in huge hangars built-into the sides of the mountain range in Area 51, but could only barely get one or 2 up in the air for a few minutes. Bob Lazar's account was correct in that regard; he spoke truthfully about what he had seen.

After all, no-one had insisted that the secrets of the propulsion system be given to Majestic; if one of the humans bleated about it, ET would have scorned him into abject embarassment for even asking about it. How DARE the puny human even question the mighty ETs! (sic)

This is how one man's heroic account of how he 'saved' millions (or at least tens of thousands) from 'brutal abduction' could just as easily be an account of how one committee of twelve, or thirty-three if you prefer, human potentates were taken for a ride, and a whole passel of sheeple right along with them.

Here endeth an epistle for the moment.

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Shady wrote - "My ideas about the Grays/Zeta's come from compiling the thousands accounts of them by way of insider tales, abducted accounts everything that's out there in public and then sifting/screening out the bits and threads that are common to all accounts or back up what's already been reported...."

I think that makes great sense, Shady. I've long been alarmed over abduction reports and the apparent Zeta (grey) forced human hybrid breeding programme abductees claim first hand experience of. Reason and ethics says that is an abuse of human free will and I'm outraged, but put that way (to them the hive is good, peaceful and productive) I can see that their intention may not be 'evil' in the classic sense, but destructive (for us) nontheless.

We've heard speak of 'good' and 'bad' Zetas (STO & STS) and how the negatively intended group suckered the US Govmnt to form a treaty long back which now gives them access and permission to carry on the hybrid programme. But if they are hive minded this would surely suggest an intelligence which won't be concerned in questioning whether the group survival instinct is ethical or fair in it's actions on the unwilling participants or not, but will go ahead and do what they want anyway for 'our' good, as Shady points out?
So, logically, can there be really rebel, free-thinking elements among the Zetas in that case, ones really interested in working positively with human culture and respecting our freedom, on 'our side' so to speak? I'm highly suspicious of the motives of Nancy Leider's Zetas and their already-demonstrated disinformation on events 'they've' prophesied (assuming her claims of contact ARE true of course in the first place!)

DonDep wrote - "How many have contemplated the probability that indeed ET sucker-punched Majestic on the "abduction" issue, just like they did on the "flying saucer" issue? "Here, humans, are the flying saucers you want. In exchange you let us abduct say 10,000 humans annually for our studies."


Exactly, Don. That seems the most likely scenario and one I've long suspected. Ironically, last night BBC 1 in the UK played the last episode of a short 'Torchwood' drama (spin off of Dr Who, for you guys!) in which a UK govmnt secretly does a deal with an alien race to hand over children the aliens 'trip out' on, by feeding off their chemicals and essence. Sci-fi mirroring real-world UFO community fears again.

And sadly, with so much suppression and secrecy from world govmnts on this issue, afraid now to 'fess up' in order to save face after their big mistake of selling us all out, we are hampered in being able to make any real response to defend ourselves, apart from on an individual level.

The other issue is WHAT is true? Stories leak out from apparent believable sources, contactees claim conflicting accounts of the 'truth' told them by aliens (some of it obviously pseudo-science and New Age babble, or plain B***S!) What to believe?

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Mountaintiger wrote - "The Human condition has been inflicted upon humanity by the suppression of truth and honesty. We have been under control for so long we have become addicted to it. Those in control wish to remain in control and the suppression of truth is the tool that they have. After thousand of years of being manipulate into thinking the enemy is “them” when it is really the elite controllers of ‘us’ (some under Grey/supernatural influences). These elite have used discontent, repression of rights, truth, and basic life needs to further addict us to ‘the life style of control’. It is almost as if we are all in a long term Human Experiment to see how addicting control is. "

Spot on there, Mountaintiger.

Religion has been the biggest tool to keep the boot of oppression firmly down on the common population's neck in past centuries. "God/s watching and will punish your sin!" Religious texts written and edited to suit the culture of the time and it's elite's position... the Bible being the biggest offender in my view! The Pistus Sophia texts mentioned earlier by Dex and Sky were only some of the contemporary 'inspired' writings edited out of what was to become the accepted Bible. And the Council of Nicea finished the job....the ultimate historical editing team.
Now it's political manouvering and business interests, industry-led trade agreements and false wars for 'freedom' and control of resources.

Interesting about the tall alien-type beings at the latest Wiltshire crop-circle and the continued military interest...must see if I can find more info on that.

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An interesting discussion about abductions and the hybridization program.

Regarding possible human/alien hybrids, I think one of the best documented cases so far centres on the story of a woman called Milagros Garcia (younger woman on the right in image below), a resident of Puerto Rica. Her mother (woman on the left in image below) claimed some years ago that Milagros is the offspring of an "alien encounter." Analyses of Milagros's blood had yielded some highly unusual DNA sequences. However, these sequences can be found in the current human population, but are extremely rare.

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Another intriguing case involves a Canadian woman who's surname escapes me (Sabel?). She's suffered a lot at the hands of her Zeta Reticulan abductors. She also has two probable alien-hybrid children that are not hidden but in our society. One's a blonde son about 6 feet 10 inches tall, and a darker daughter much shorter and nearer her height.

I also remember hearing a woman called Helen Littrell being interviewed on some US Talk radio show 2 or 3 years ago, and she had an incredible story to tell, which occurred back in the early 1970s. Helen Littrell had had a daughter called Marissa at university then, and Marissa shared her room for a time with a strange young woman called Rachel, who wore wraparound sunglasses and a scarf covering her head 24/7, which both Helen and her daughter found odd. To cut a long story short, it turned out that Rachel was an alien-human hybrid, and she was the "sister" of Marissa, as her mother had suffered a number of miscarriages before she bore Marissa, and without her knowledge, had been involved in some sort of hybrid breeding/humanization program at a secret base not far from Area 51. Rachel appeared to have no past, and spoke in an odd, mechanical and emotionless way. An "Airforce Colonel" had arranged the "setup" ostensibly to get his "daughter" Rachel accustomed to college life, but it had been done intentionally so that the two sisters could bond and interact, as well as spend time with their mother when she visited her daughter at college. When it came to eating, Rachel the hybrid could only eat food that was delivered outside her door on a daily basis, and could not drink water or soft drinks. Once, when her glasses had slipped off, both mother and daughter were shocked to see that she had pale green eyes with vertical slits in them. Also, I remember Helen Littrell recalling seeing hundreds of foetuses floating in huge tanks of green fluid when she was either taken to the secret Nevada facility or on some craft, so it would appear they've been churning out hybrids for decades, many years before Dan_B told us all in his unforgettable 2002 interview with Bill Hamilton about "taking the process of natural selection and throwing it out the window" in relation to Majestic's intention of creating "present day/future versions of human beings."

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Hope you're well over your illness and on the mend now, Don. :wink:


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"Rachel appeared to have no past, and spoke in an odd, mechanical and emotionless way."

I have long suspected the classic Men In Black were Alien Hyprids possibly first or second generation of the original abduction. They can't exactly pass for Human but good enough to do certian required tasks in public. Mib's (at least in 70s) always spoke in a odd mechanical and emotionless way plus they had problems with contractions.

The really bizarre thing to watch though was when they 'shut down' by that I mean when they would intimadate or such. Clearly they'd expect you act in a predictable logical way. If you worked up enough courage NOT respond to them or lets say laugh in their face. They would shut down come to complete stand still turn to each other and I swear wait for I assume telepathic instruction on how to deal with changing verable. It wasn't long 1-5 seconds but very noticable.

There is an episode of Old Star Trek. Were Kirk and Away Mission get caught on the planet run by Landrew an ancient computer which runs the people and planet. Remember how the controllers (the robed gents with staffs) would shut down and await for instruction.? Or even later Harry Mudd's androids, when Kirk and away team us illiogic to shut them off.

That's what I'm talking about the 1970s MIBs were exactly the same way. They could be made to 'shut down' and await instruction.

The really cool thing was the more bizarre illiogical you got when dealing with their encounter. They would come back the next day or few days and play out truly bizzare out of this world antics. Almost theatrical skit in nature.

As if they some how learning, analizing this new form human behavior and had to come back to the instructor to get approval if they were doing it right... really really out there stuff.... it was almost like play with a zombie.


Also the Hybrids cover their heads, because some how they can't get the ears just right.. its also a give away.


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Also the MIBS were not human agents.. PERIOD.. The human military types at the time stuck out of crowd like sore thumbs even when they were under cover.. they simply did not know how to lose the 'military training' drilled into them.

Believe it not.. In one encounter my brothers had with them. They had gone into a store to pick up snacks for their skywatching that night and camp out at UFO hotspot. They were followed and tailed in the store by ar rather agressive butch like female undercover. She followed them about the store always in the same isle where they were shopping.. so my Brother A doubled back on her and came up behind he as she was fixated on my other brother.

Sneaking up behind her yelled out "Atten Hut!" (Attention) in mitltary lingo at the time. ROTFLASF She dropped everything in her hands and snapped to attention! Both of my brothers laughed so hard nearly had an accident.. She on the other hand grabed her purse at her side, not taking it as funny motioned that she was armed and ready to us it and backed out of the store...


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