Welcome to the continuation of the Golden Thread, Volume 2009 4.7
All are welcome so long as the Golden Rule is observed among the participants.

This is the search for the 'truth' and Disclosure, that all men (and women, and children) that so desire learn the full and examined truth of the 'extraterrestrial reality' as it is known.

Update from GONG @ GLP:

Quoted:

Interesting twist on this come from this story


UFO Messages: Earth might be completely destroyed

Michael Cohen m.cohen@allnewsweb.com
In the last few months dramatic developments have occurred in regards to human/extra-terrestrial relations and communication. Small UFO probes communicating with earthlings have ceased sending their signals in mathematical sequences and are now using earthly languages to communicate. This has made the task of deciphering these messages totally superfluous. It has also made the UFO messages much clearer and has allowed for much more detail to be contained within the messages. It is believed that the decision to initially communicate in code was a choice and not a matter of capability. This alien civilization has in fact been watching humans and even discreetly guiding them for thousands of years.
It is now known that the civilization located in Andromeda Galaxy that is communicating with us via these UFO probes refer to themselves as ‘Axthadans’. They are approximately a thousand years ahead of humanity in terms of technology. Their appearance is akin to the race we refer to as ‘Greys’. This civilization has been entrusted by other more evolved aliens with the task of preparing humanity for possible integration into universal culture.
Axthadans are currently grooming over three hundred semi-technological civilizations for induction into a universal family of civilizations. Sadly, Most of these civilizations will not make it.

The Pentagon is now in possession of extensive footage and information regarding life on their planet: Axthada. This planet has been described as being of great beauty and it’s civilization as ‘utopian’ by earth’s standards.


It is now known that these aliens have issued earthlings with a warning: We have less than a decade to completely bring an end to all forms of warfare, racism, prejudice and economic exploitation. The Axthadans have sent messages stating that if we continue our evil ways we will destroy ourselves and this planet within fifty years.
In the event that aliens do disclose their presence to humanity and we continue to display any of these traits Planet Earth itself might have to be destroyed as a potential threat to universal harmony. In this scenario it is believed that innocent human victims of exploitation as well as other species will be resettled elsewhere .
In an ironic twist Axthadans are communicating with groups seen as perpetrators. As such immense pressure has been placed on the US administration. A decision was made to allow America’s economy to falter to allow for a redistribution of power and resources. Obviously the election of an African-American to the U.S Presidency was seen as a positive development by the Axthadans.
The question now is will this satisfy our alien custodians or will this be seen as mere window dressing? It is believed that the Axthadans mean business and will not tolerate any trace of the existing power-structure. Ego-driven and ultra-materialistic western culture seems slated for destruction.
Will Westerners adapt to a new reality where previously trodden on groups such as indigenous populations of countries like the US and Australia will be given leadership roles? Extraterrestrials have noted that the manner in which such groups were able to live for thousands of years in harmony with their environment translates into a safer, more peaceful universal existence. Western values of devour and destroy in an orgy of selfishness for the sole benefit of personal gain are said to be of immense concern to aliens.
We realise that many readers will find this information hard to believe, however for those who work on these issues on a daily basis it is all too real. Our sources are such individuals and we can reveal they are not just speaking to All News Web. Other publications have also been contacted.
In the words of Bob Dylan ‘The times they are a-changin’….again. Will humanity make the grade?
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As a contactee I want you to know I haven't been sheltered to these aspects and will confirm your warranted concerns.

It's true, there are militaristic actions desired against our species for those reasons formerly stated.

The Problem...proof is still being opposed. What does an uninformed public concerning these problems chance's are, when attempts to inform, simple photo proof, etc,..are being interfered with?

They're trying to work this out. That's all I want comment about these terrible aspects.

Don't think it can't happen..all anyone needs to do is review our recorded history with the Prophets and what they warned, in their times, the public. What God would to do the ruling Kings if they not heed the prophets warning. A sinful nation never stands for long.
Now is an even bigger problem.

These intelligence can be pushy and aggressive getting us to clean up our mess.
IMHO this problematic aspect has yet to be fully realized.

Dex

From blue (ufo-unbound)
Cross posting:

From Colin Andrews:

Three Strange beings Reported at Crop Circle - Silbury Hill, Wiltshire, UK
Posted: 09 Jul 2009 08:59 AM PDT

ColinAndrews.net is reporting an event that occurred 7th July 2009, Silbury Hill, Wiltshire, England, near the crop circle located south west of the hill off the A4 highway.

This is the same location where on the 23 May 1994, four researchers (including one nuclear scientist) visiting a crop design in this field, witnessed intense military presence moments before they each experienced 45 minutes missing time and within a short while a further period of missing time. Each had red marks appear on their necks and had severe nose bleeds hours later.

This is also the site of a secret military stake out which took place during the 1990 Operation Blackbird, where over these fields a large unidentified white orb was filmed by the army.

The latest bizarre event took place yesterday morning (7th) at approximately 5:00 AM local time, when a off duty Wiltshire Police Sergeant was driving towards Marlborough on the A4 highway and about to pass Silbury Hill on his left. He looked to his right and witnessed three exceptionally tall beings inspecting the new crop circle which appeared there on the 5th July. He stopped his vehicle and watched them for several minutes because they stood out as odd. Each of them were well over six feet tall, each had blond hair and also they all were wearing one piece white suits, with hoods that had been dropped onto the back of their heads.

After a few minutes watching them, he said they appeared to be examining the crop in the circle, he shouted at them from a distance of about 400 yards but they ignored him. As soon as he entered the field, they became aware of him and ran at an amazing speed to the south, away from Silbury Hill. He said "I recognized that I could never catch up with them since they were exceptionally fast." He glanced away for just a few seconds and looked back to find that they had completely vanished. He became very uneasy and left the scene.

The police officer was very aware of hearing a static crackling sound in the field and around him. He said as the plants moved around, he could see the movement coincided with the level of sound, as if the static was effecting the plants by moving them.

He also started to experience a headache in the field, which became worse as the day went on and he could not shake it off all day.

In regards to Brightstar's post from the end of the last thread...



My ideas about the Grays/Zeta's come from compiling the thousands accounts of them by way of insider tales, abducted accounts everything that's out there in public and then sifting/screening out the bits and threads that are common to all accounts or back up what's already been reported. And Lastly using my background in Anthropology namely what I know of physical and cultural evolution to formulate a good hyphsis of was is indeed going on with the Grays. Of course without a Gray/Zeta around to test that hypothesis. It remains a guesstimate at best.

1. The Zeta Reticulan star system contains two distinct species and civilizations of this there is a high amount of certainty given accounts. Possibly, even up to five by way of indirect accounts.

2. The Zeta Reticulain star system was "Seeded" or "genetically manufactured" but a yet unknown species which had its hands in genetically seeding the star system we know as Sol which contains as Earth, Mars and third planet which existed between Mars and Jupiter which was de storied either by design or by natural catastrophe

3. The Beings we call the Orion's/Pledidians/Nordics/Tall Whites. Were also genetically engineered "Seeded" by this yet Unknown Species and are or were the original "Genetic Template" for the creation of sentient life here in Star System of Sol. Because of this the Orion/Pledidians view Mankind as their 'younger brother'. Having this close 'kinship' with us They watch over us while we're in the 'galactic incubator' so to speak. and feel it is their right to watch over us to be our "Stewards". Yet Orion and Human have NO co evolutionary tract other then biological commonality.

Begin that they view us as their relations, they have time to time attempted to socially evolve us once we reached Homo Sapiens status. They in essence gave us spiritual and moral code by pretending to be "the Gods"

Yet our ultimate Creator(s) were this Unknown Species which I believe remain a total mystery to both the Zetaians and Orions. No one "out there" on the countless of "seeded worlds" have ever directly encountered this Unknown Species yet they know it/they exists in the Universe.

4. The Original genetic template of the Zeta Gray we are all familiar with was based on INSECT form of life, not reptilian, not homid, but insect, A species that closely shares characteristics with our own ants and bees, wasps, even termites. Hive society and social structure the Hive Mind if you will. Yet today after countless eons of evolution and with the infusion of "seeding" genetic alteration they too Share characteristics common to us all mammalian life forms. such as awareness of Self, Nurturing of Young, they may very well even have rudimentary understand of Love, Empathy, Self Preservation (as opposed to Hive Preservation).. But they have a major psychological conflict going on.. Their INSTICT is still Hive orientated and centered.

Are we mammalian based life forms better then theirs? Of Course Not! Just look at the Hive cultures we have on this planet the Ants and Bees (or even our fictional based Star Trek Borg)from a anthological point of view their Society is perfectly suited for perpetuation the Species in ANY given environment. It functions like a well oiled machine, without conflict what so ever. As a Hive Mind working in tantdum there is no obstacle that could with stand them. see example the South American Army Ants which will literally build complex living bridges across rivers in order to get to a new food source to sustain and perpetuate the Hive... Indeed the Hive Mind could be argued as ultimate utopian society for within it all of Socialological Conflicts that arise in a complex society simply do not exist nor arise.. Every individual knows from birth its place and purpose in the over all scene of things and does not question it.

YET

For us Species of different evolutionary origins the Hive Mind is frighteningly strange and ultimately death, for within it means death of the Self Awareness.

I believe that Zeta Gray's, like with all Sentient Beings want to spread their idea of perfection to the rest of the galaxy. They view it as the Ultimate Good within their society, they view their model of how things should operate and function as the Ultimate Good for Galaxy itself which is in Chaos according to their perceptions.

Example look that our Invasion of Iraq what was the stated philosophical objective???? Anyone??? "To Spread Western Style Democracy To The Middle East" Noble objective by United States and Britain.. But you see the Middle East cultures took a whole different root to Civilization.. and in 2009 some six years after the invasion Chaos rules supreme as to diametrical opposed philosophies come into conflict.

The Zeta/Grays Out There are trying to do the same.. They are attempting to bring Order to what they instinctually view as chaos. An thus by accounts of Abducted, Contac tee's and alike.. We are told that Orions and Zeta Grays have fought great WARS the last being some by some accounts as far back as 5,000 BC to 0 AD. Possibly within our very own sky and upon this planet. This War resulted in this Planet of our being re-classified as "Of Limits" to both sides..

But in 1937 - 1952 that all changed when mankind developed the first stage of becoming a Civilization in and of itself in braking the barrier of splitting the Atom.

At that stage Sol and Earth became was taken off the 'no contact' list. And the Zeta Gray's were the First to arrive.. and shake hands with Ike, PTB and MIC Military Industrial Complex in the form of Majestic Twelve.

Today our PTBs and MICs see the mistake they made in making a deal with the wrong side.. Meanwhile Zeta ships are snatching up abductees left and right, hybridizing at tremendous speed... and well in their eyes fixing what's wrong with this planet.

To use the analogy... Earth is Docile European Honey Bee Hive... and Well the African Killer Bee (The Zeta Grays) have arrived to hybridize this hive. Right before our eyes. Hybrids are being introduced within our Society, Abductees altered all in the ultimate goal of one day waking up and finding this Honey Bee Hive Africanized totally.

Meanwhile our PTBS and MICS have resigned themselves to "The New Order" either have gone over to that side completely or are too Service to Self (STS) to give a shit to lift a finger as they save their own asses form Beings they perceive as unstop able.

For us everyday folks and humans.. The Zeta/Grays do indeed pose a GREAT Danger, for ultimately it means living in a Zeta Gray society... Death of the Self and becoming a Drone within their Society. Which to the Grays is Good Thing! To the Gray's it means Utopia! Which they are promising the Abductees as their viva sectioned alive, implanted and impregnated with their Hybrids.


5. The Zeta Grays are Indeed a Dying Species,

- Genetically altered by hybridization programs with hundreds other Civilizations,
- Or by effects of Warfare with countless other species they've en counted..
- Or by their won alteration of their Spices by way of Genetic Engineering
- Or simply by way of nature and being a breed Species with no infusion of outside genetic material. IE they have become Clones.

What ever the case may be

The Zeta Grays today a walking Genetic Mutation. Unable to procreate naturally and possibly suffering from extensive physical retarded growth (a perpetual state of fetal development or larva stage as the case maybe)

They NEED a Host to carry their off spring.

Much like certain predator species of wasps and insects on this planet.. Will seek out and impregnate a host with their egg, That off spring will develop within the host ultimately kill it and emerge as adult version of that wasp or insect.

This is the ultimate reason behind the Abduction and Impregnation of Human Females. In short, the abductee ARE their incubators as well as source material for the Hybrid.

Ultimately their (The Zeta Gray) goal is to produce a Hybrid that can carry their off-spring to full term.

They NEED us as Host Species and in the process they will Hybridize our Species.

These stories of them being able to Clone themselves may be true. But a Clone of Clone of Clone of a Clone will ultimately FAIL due to genetic damage and without a infusion of new DNA.

These stories of them being able to transfer consciousness from one clone to another... Bullshit.

The Evidence (Abduction Phenomena) speaks loudly they need HOST bodies to carry out their reproductive cycle. Cloning may possibly be involved in the period between finding viable genetic Hosts.. but its not long term.. They need HOSTS to preptualate their species.

6. The Orions/Pleadians/Tall Whites may in fact be our only hope at this late stage.. The Stewards that oversaw this Planets early development and our development..

But if Charles Hall description of them is correct... Then

Its better for humanity to be treated as Pet.... then preyed upon by a Predatory Species..

An I'm sure your Cat or Dog would most heartedly agree... if you were able to ask them that right now while they are at your feet..

..... More later need to run some errands.



Shady

[quote="Shady Groves"
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This isn't a forum for a Theological Debate... If you'd like to continue let me know in private.
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It may be stepping out of bounds here but I like to hear view points.

I believe that Supreme Creator aka Higher power influences how ET's exist/work.

Therefore it is part of ET reality and if it kept relative to the ET topic would it be acceptable?

Btw way while I'm at it.. A very good depiction of how Christian Knights rode into the Baltics to Bring the World of God...

This clip is fictional BUT is very very true to Historic Fact of "The Northern Crusade"

To this day in Lativan tongue... we have a few terms for Christians... which roughly translate to "Ignorate savages!"

I really love this clip ... The Pagan Horsemen charge the symbol of evil and do a notice job of dispatching it


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWP98G-SG1Q

This is a fictional story. The year is 1250 AD, The Teutonic Order after being informed from their spies have sent three large forces to deal with the Pagans. One of the forts is on the outskirts of the Livonia Province southwest of Riga. The Teutonic order has sent diplomats to Novgorod to ask assistance against the Pagans, but talks are not going well when a severed head of two diplomats have returned to Riga. The Teutonic Order is opening talks now with the Danes. This is only the beginning.


And a Proud Modern Day Latvian Pagan and Folk Artist...

The People the Teutonic Knights considered Savages...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAwRI1Ahzvw

Laima Jansone performs a variation of a traditional Latvian folk melody.
For a better quality video go to

http://exposureroom.com/laima002


Shady

just add to that Mix the Annunaki influence/agendas
in all the cultures around the world...


and how they wanted to return...but FAIL!!!

and their "Ground Crew" call for the NWO...

Shady wrote - "My ideas about the Grays/Zeta's come from compiling the thousands accounts of them by way of insider tales, abducted accounts everything that's out there in public and then sifting/screening out the bits and threads that are common to all accounts or back up what's already been reported...."

I think that makes great sense, Shady. I've long been alarmed over abduction reports and the apparent Zeta (grey) forced human hybrid breeding programme abductees claim first hand experience of. Reason and ethics says that is an abuse of human free will and I'm outraged, but put that way (to them the hive is good, peaceful and productive) I can see that their intention may not be 'evil' in the classic sense, but destructive (for us) nontheless.

We've heard speak of 'good' and 'bad' Zetas (STO & STS) and how the negatively intended group suckered the US Govmnt to form a treaty long back which now gives them access and permission to carry on the hybrid programme. But if they are hive minded this would surely suggest an intelligence which won't be concerned in questioning whether the group survival instinct is ethical or fair in it's actions on the unwilling participants or not, but will go ahead and do what they want anyway for 'our' good, as Shady points out?
So, logically, can there be really rebel, free-thinking elements among the Zetas in that case, ones really interested in working positively with human culture and respecting our freedom, on 'our side' so to speak? I'm highly suspicious of the motives of Nancy Leider's Zetas and their already-demonstrated disinformation on events 'they've' prophesied (assuming her claims of contact ARE true of course in the first place!)

DonDep wrote - "How many have contemplated the probability that indeed ET sucker-punched Majestic on the "abduction" issue, just like they did on the "flying saucer" issue? "Here, humans, are the flying saucers you want. In exchange you let us abduct say 10,000 humans annually for our studies."


Exactly, Don. That seems the most likely scenario and one I've long suspected. Ironically, last night BBC 1 in the UK played the last episode of a short 'Torchwood' drama (spin off of Dr Who, for you guys!) in which a UK govmnt secretly does a deal with an alien race to hand over children the aliens 'trip out' on, by feeding off their chemicals and essence. Sci-fi mirroring real-world UFO community fears again.

And sadly, with so much suppression and secrecy from world govmnts on this issue, afraid now to 'fess up' in order to save face after their big mistake of selling us all out, we are hampered in being able to make any real response to defend ourselves, apart from on an individual level.

The other issue is WHAT is true? Stories leak out from apparent believable sources, contactees claim conflicting accounts of the 'truth' told them by aliens (some of it obviously pseudo-science and New Age babble, or plain B***S!) What to believe?

Mountaintiger wrote - "The Human condition has been inflicted upon humanity by the suppression of truth and honesty. We have been under control for so long we have become addicted to it. Those in control wish to remain in control and the suppression of truth is the tool that they have. After thousand of years of being manipulate into thinking the enemy is “them” when it is really the elite controllers of ‘us’ (some under Grey/supernatural influences). These elite have used discontent, repression of rights, truth, and basic life needs to further addict us to ‘the life style of control’. It is almost as if we are all in a long term Human Experiment to see how addicting control is. "

Spot on there, Mountaintiger.

Religion has been the biggest tool to keep the boot of oppression firmly down on the common population's neck in past centuries. "God/s watching and will punish your sin!" Religious texts written and edited to suit the culture of the time and it's elite's position... the Bible being the biggest offender in my view! The Pistus Sophia texts mentioned earlier by Dex and Sky were only some of the contemporary 'inspired' writings edited out of what was to become the accepted Bible. And the Council of Nicea finished the job....the ultimate historical editing team.
Now it's political manouvering and business interests, industry-led trade agreements and false wars for 'freedom' and control of resources.

Interesting about the tall alien-type beings at the latest Wiltshire crop-circle and the continued military interest...must see if I can find more info on that.

An interesting discussion about abductions and the hybridization program.

Regarding possible human/alien hybrids, I think one of the best documented cases so far centres on the story of a woman called Milagros Garcia (younger woman on the right in image below), a resident of Puerto Rica. Her mother (woman on the left in image below) claimed some years ago that Milagros is the offspring of an "alien encounter." Analyses of Milagros's blood had yielded some highly unusual DNA sequences. However, these sequences can be found in the current human population, but are extremely rare.



Another intriguing case involves a Canadian woman who's surname escapes me (Sabel?). She's suffered a lot at the hands of her Zeta Reticulan abductors. She also has two probable alien-hybrid children that are not hidden but in our society. One's a blonde son about 6 feet 10 inches tall, and a darker daughter much shorter and nearer her height.

I also remember hearing a woman called Helen Littrell being interviewed on some US Talk radio show 2 or 3 years ago, and she had an incredible story to tell, which occurred back in the early 1970s. Helen Littrell had had a daughter called Marissa at university then, and Marissa shared her room for a time with a strange young woman called Rachel, who wore wraparound sunglasses and a scarf covering her head 24/7, which both Helen and her daughter found odd. To cut a long story short, it turned out that Rachel was an alien-human hybrid, and she was the "sister" of Marissa, as her mother had suffered a number of miscarriages before she bore Marissa, and without her knowledge, had been involved in some sort of hybrid breeding/humanization program at a secret base not far from Area 51. Rachel appeared to have no past, and spoke in an odd, mechanical and emotionless way. An "Airforce Colonel" had arranged the "setup" ostensibly to get his "daughter" Rachel accustomed to college life, but it had been done intentionally so that the two sisters could bond and interact, as well as spend time with their mother when she visited her daughter at college. When it came to eating, Rachel the hybrid could only eat food that was delivered outside her door on a daily basis, and could not drink water or soft drinks. Once, when her glasses had slipped off, both mother and daughter were shocked to see that she had pale green eyes with vertical slits in them. Also, I remember Helen Littrell recalling seeing hundreds of foetuses floating in huge tanks of green fluid when she was either taken to the secret Nevada facility or on some craft, so it would appear they've been churning out hybrids for decades, many years before Dan_B told us all in his unforgettable 2002 interview with Bill Hamilton about "taking the process of natural selection and throwing it out the window" in relation to Majestic's intention of creating "present day/future versions of human beings."

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Hope you're well over your illness and on the mend now, Don.

"Rachel appeared to have no past, and spoke in an odd, mechanical and emotionless way."

I have long suspected the classic Men In Black were Alien Hyprids possibly first or second generation of the original abduction. They can't exactly pass for Human but good enough to do certian required tasks in public. Mib's (at least in 70s) always spoke in a odd mechanical and emotionless way plus they had problems with contractions.

The really bizarre thing to watch though was when they 'shut down' by that I mean when they would intimadate or such. Clearly they'd expect you act in a predictable logical way. If you worked up enough courage NOT respond to them or lets say laugh in their face. They would shut down come to complete stand still turn to each other and I swear wait for I assume telepathic instruction on how to deal with changing verable. It wasn't long 1-5 seconds but very noticable.

There is an episode of Old Star Trek. Were Kirk and Away Mission get caught on the planet run by Landrew an ancient computer which runs the people and planet. Remember how the controllers (the robed gents with staffs) would shut down and await for instruction.? Or even later Harry Mudd's androids, when Kirk and away team us illiogic to shut them off.

That's what I'm talking about the 1970s MIBs were exactly the same way. They could be made to 'shut down' and await instruction.

The really cool thing was the more bizarre illiogical you got when dealing with their encounter. They would come back the next day or few days and play out truly bizzare out of this world antics. Almost theatrical skit in nature.

As if they some how learning, analizing this new form human behavior and had to come back to the instructor to get approval if they were doing it right... really really out there stuff.... it was almost like play with a zombie.


Also the Hybrids cover their heads, because some how they can't get the ears just right.. its also a give away.


Shady

Also the MIBS were not human agents.. PERIOD.. The human military types at the time stuck out of crowd like sore thumbs even when they were under cover.. they simply did not know how to lose the 'military training' drilled into them.

Believe it not.. In one encounter my brothers had with them. They had gone into a store to pick up snacks for their skywatching that night and camp out at UFO hotspot. They were followed and tailed in the store by ar rather agressive butch like female undercover. She followed them about the store always in the same isle where they were shopping.. so my Brother A doubled back on her and came up behind he as she was fixated on my other brother.

Sneaking up behind her yelled out "Atten Hut!" (Attention) in mitltary lingo at the time. ROTFLASF She dropped everything in her hands and snapped to attention! Both of my brothers laughed so hard nearly had an accident.. She on the other hand grabed her purse at her side, not taking it as funny motioned that she was armed and ready to us it and backed out of the store...