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The Golden Thread, Volume 4.9 2009
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Author:  avid [ Tue Oct 06, 2009 1:56 pm ]
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missing posts.....

something to do with USGS discrepancies....
What is happening?
This site has been down all day (GMT time)

Author:  Lynnwood [ Tue Oct 06, 2009 1:59 pm ]
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The server was down, per DD via email after I sent him one of the error messages...we'll have to wait and see if anyone has a backup of the missing posts, and the new thread, we were into Page 1 quite a ways.

Author:  avid [ Tue Oct 06, 2009 2:04 pm ]
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Lynnwood wrote:
The server was down, per DD via email after I sent him one of the error messages...

YAY! There is life...!
(I had a panic - totally silly - but one does sometimes when t'old carpet has been rented asunder from an innocents' foot) Off for a camomile tea....
Hold the 'fort' :lol: :lol: :lol:

Tons of stuff missing from last few hours......
Any news on predictives?
Many thanks Pxx

Author:  recall15 [ Tue Oct 06, 2009 3:11 pm ]
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Server outage

or the HDD broke?


Author:  recall15 [ Tue Oct 06, 2009 3:16 pm ]
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avid wrote:
missing posts.....

something to do with USGS discrepancies....
What is happening?
This site has been down all day (GMT time)

hmmm! More (eq) activity


DATE links are into the IRIS WILBER system where you can see seismograms and request datasets.

06-OCT-2009 20:01:54    -15.16    -173.64    4.5    10.0    TONGA ISLANDS
06-OCT-2009 18:06:34    36.42    -117.85    4.1    0.2    CALIFORNIA-NEVADA BORDER REGION
06-OCT-2009 17:22:57    18.95    -107.44    5.5    52.4    OFF COAST OF JALISCO, MEXICO
06-OCT-2009 15:23:33    -5.23    145.39    4.9    82.0    EASTERN NEW GUINEA REG., P.N.G.
06-OCT-2009 12:28:20    -17.49    -178.86    4.3    585.6    FIJI ISLANDS REGION
06-OCT-2009 11:13:34    -2.28    68.74    5.3    10.0    CARLSBERG RIDGE
06-OCT-2009 11:04:58    -2.22    68.75    5.1    10.0    CARLSBERG RIDGE
06-OCT-2009 09:38:00    -16.37    -172.59    4.9    10.0    SAMOA ISLANDS REGION
06-OCT-2009 09:33:37    -20.82    168.67    5.1    41.0    LOYALTY ISLANDS
06-OCT-2009 08:10:09    13.85    -90.59    4.6    95.3    NEAR COAST OF GUATEMALA
06-OCT-2009 04:30:23    2.07    128.35    4.7    71.9    HALMAHERA, INDONESIA
06-OCT-2009 01:59:39    -4.54    -104.94    5.3    10.0    CENTRAL EAST PACIFIC RISE
06-OCT-2009 00:16:04    46.50    -27.28    5.2    10.0    NORTHERN MID-ATLANTIC RIDGE
05-OCT-2009 22:45:30    -15.26    -173.47    4.9    10.0    TONGA ISLANDS
05-OCT-2009 21:38:51    2.08    128.80    4.8    63.6    HALMAHERA, INDONESIA
05-OCT-2009 18:52:43    -15.29    -173.70    4.8    10.0    TONGA ISLANDS
05-OCT-2009 17:17:55    24.80    128.02    4.9    10.0    SOUTHEAST OF RYUKYU ISLANDS
05-OCT-2009 17:03:29    -18.78    169.22    4.6    250.2    VANUATU ISLANDS
05-OCT-2009 16:28:10    18.04    -62.78    4.5    35.4    LEEWARD ISLANDS
05-OCT-2009 14:12:00    33.67    137.24    4.6    351.6    NEAR S. COAST OF HONSHU, JAPAN
05-OCT-2009 13:18:52    -22.48    -68.48    4.6    99.8    NORTHERN CHILE
05-OCT-2009 12:51:02    -0.82    99.84    4.9    91.1    SOUTHERN SUMATERA, INDONESIA
05-OCT-2009 12:46:37    -16.93    -172.40    4.8    10.0    SAMOA ISLANDS REGION
05-OCT-2009 09:22:50    -16.28    -173.07    5.0    10.0    TONGA ISLANDS
05-OCT-2009 08:28:47    -16.19    -174.15    4.7    10.0    TONGA ISLANDS
05-OCT-2009 07:12:34    -15.99    -171.92    4.6    10.0    SAMOA ISLANDS REGION
05-OCT-2009 06:06:20    30.20    140.39    4.5    172.9    SOUTH OF HONSHU, JAPAN
05-OCT-2009 05:51:21    46.38    -27.37    4.8    10.0    NORTHERN MID-ATLANTIC RIDGE
05-OCT-2009 00:35:12    42.60    141.47    5.0    10.0    HOKKAIDO, JAPAN REGION


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Author:  avid [ Tue Oct 06, 2009 3:25 pm ]
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recall15 wrote:

Server outage

or the HDD broke?

High Definition Denominator?
Hostage Demanding DeLaurean?
Habitation Drastically Downmarket?

Keep us posted with regard to the values of the greens in't front of all of the 'estate' houses.
Actually, only 2 dogs relieve themselves there twice daily, and it is removed by their owner.

Parking Parking Parking in Maryport... = unless you have a diabled badge you're stuffed!

Author:  Cyberbird [ Tue Oct 06, 2009 3:51 pm ]
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Author:  avid [ Tue Oct 06, 2009 3:55 pm ]
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I've just looked at my last post - it seems so irrational - but the tenuous logic is still there...
Sorry :oops:

Hopefully all the technical probs will be resolved asap! :-D

Author:  Sky [ Tue Oct 06, 2009 4:28 pm ]
Post subject:  GT Down

:roll: :?: :!:

Was really weird seeing GT coming up error wise! First time it's happened since I joined??

Sad about the lost posts though - any chance of recovery GTAdmin?

Author:  Sky [ Tue Oct 06, 2009 4:34 pm ]
Post subject:  Matrix Energetics

Nice quote from Richard Bartlett, D.C., N.D., developer of Matrix Energetics

“Don’t ever let anyone tell you what to do when your heart tells you differently, and pay attention to what shows up in the next moment and realize every moment is full of grace, miracles, majesty and possibility.”

Check out his work on Google and a sample clip here...

IMO an excellent way to look after your body...

Author:  Shady Groves [ Tue Oct 06, 2009 5:18 pm ]
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Glad to the Forum back up and running but I see alot of my posts gone and seems the Admin had to restart back ups.

I hope it wasn't an attack by Sned's for something I said ;)

Boy them spooks can get mighty testy and resort to under handed methods in attempting to silence truth.

What happened to Bill of Rights? Yea Majestic you know that thing you once swore to up hold and defend when you joined your respective Armed Forces before Majestic but now use like toilet paper in your jobs?

Just some thoughts


Author:  Shady Groves [ Tue Oct 06, 2009 5:31 pm ]
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Hey Brian, Steve, Brent, Secret Squiral and others peeking in clandestine like..

Remember these words??? You lifted your hand to and took a an oath too!

"I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God." (Title 10, US Code; Act of 5 May 1960 replacing the wording first adopted in 1789, with amendment effective 5 October 1962)

The Oath has three parts to it:
1.) I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic - I will defend the U.S. Constitution against ALL enemies.
2.) that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same - I pledge my complete loyalty to the U.S. Constitution.
3.) and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God. - I will obey the orders of the Commander in Chief, and all Officers superior to me, according to Military law (The U.C.M.J. is subordinate to the Constitution and applies only to members of the Armed Forces).

Now you work for org that is ILLEGAL according to US Constitution! You work for men that subvert it at any possible need to feather their own pockets and lust for power! You willingly server an agenda and organization that seeks nothing else but the over throw of the United States of America in favor of One World Government of tyrants!

One word for all of you!



And you know what's worse Owl, Mongrael, Secret, Brent... and others..

You betrayed your Brothers! Your Comrades, Your Back!... They die to night in Iraq and Afganistan... dying for your Bosses GREED and LUST for Power...


Author:  Dondep [ Tue Oct 06, 2009 5:34 pm ]
Post subject:  drewski's missing GLP web-bot update

GT Admin. told me earlier he'll be along to post about today's server outage. He did say there was "nothing to worry about; relax!" So if there are posts missing, I hope someone still has them in their cache. He added that Mongrel had issued him an ultimatum, demanding he turn over your keyboard, Shady, or face dire which he promptly broke wind in reply. (Just kidding..... :P )

drewski posted the following as a separate thread in the main Golden Thread section which I had to move to the Active Mind, as everyone knows. I thought I would reprint it for the benefit of anyone that doesn't - or can't - read there:


from drewski, via GLP, quoting Clif High of web-bot fame, who wrote:
+++++++Urgent Web Bot Update Ref: 10/25+++++++

The following in from Clif at on Saturday - changes somewhat our expectation for the way things will be working out both in markets and in the defense world over the next month:

"Heads up! Reality Change Ahead!

in running our MOM (model of modelspace) cleanup of the lexicon prior to tuning, it became apparent that October 25 turn in emotions globally will be dominated by a [lock down/implosion] of the [planetary financial/banking system]. The data suggests that such things a [currency trading] and [commodities trading] as well as many other [digital trading forms] will be [suspended]. Some will never resume, or if they do, they will be in entirely different forms. There may be a [banking lock up] in many countries emanating from the USofA outward. There may be [inter bank lock downs] in which [central banks] and [wealth storage clearing houses] will not be able to function. There are data sets suggesting that the rapid shift into building tension language on the 25th originates from and is propelled by the [financial system implosion] that then morphs over into [dollar rejected by all] a mere 10/ten days (more or less) later. There may be shut downs of all kinds of banking activity within the USofA and the rest of the anglosphere.

The [sudden/urgent travel] of the [administration (obama et al) minions] in early November, under this MOM background load shows up as being about [desperately trying] to get the rest of the [planet] to [loan] the actual [resources/wealth] to [restart] the [USofA banking system].

This MOM data set can be wrong in a way that the larger modelspace can not. The MOM set is so small that if it is wrong it is usually widely so. However, the data sets here are so focused, and bring in such crisp emotional shifts relative to the same days (10-25-2009), that it made sense to prepare this note.

If correct, this is the beginning of "The Big One" relative to the dollar and the central banking system. Everything else in the modern world depends on this it will be a big one throughout all of the social infrastructure.

If MOM is correct, then the [dollar death] will be way more dramatic and waaaay shorter than i had first thought. MOM is showing very dramatic language shifts (albeit against a much smaller background) for not only October 25, but also in a very sharp crocodile tooth pattern from November 4 through December 10th indicating a very very emotionally choppy time.

So, heads up! Reality shift (time/event bump) just ahead. If MOM is correct, there will be some additional levels of [visibility] on October 10th through the 15th that will put a focus on the 'trigger' that will show on October 25th and beyond.

Masa Katsu! Pie up now, panic later

My own opinion is that Rothschild - THE Rothschild, the only one that really counts - will ensure that the masses continue to have their burgers and brewskis and that the price of energy in dollars - hence the real-time value of the dollar - won't change all that drastically between now and the shift. But on the off-chance you DO have investments in the 'market', I'd put them into precious metals, foodstuffs, and durable goods.

Author:  recall15 [ Tue Oct 06, 2009 5:39 pm ]
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Some news Avid:


Exclusive report
The demise of the dollar

In a graphic illustration of the new world order, Arab states have launched secret moves with China, Russia and France to stop using the US currency for oil trading

By Robert Fisk

Tuesday, 6 October 2009

In the most profound financial change in recent Middle East history, Gulf Arabs are planning – along with China, Russia, Japan and France – to end dollar dealings for oil, moving instead to a basket of currencies including the Japanese yen and Chinese yuan, the euro, gold and a new, unified currency planned for nations in the Gulf Co-operation Council, including Saudi Arabia, Abu Dhabi, Kuwait and Qatar.

Secret meetings have already been held by finance ministers and central bank governors in Russia, China, Japan and Brazil to work on the scheme, which will mean that oil will no longer be priced in dollars.

The plans, confirmed to The Independent by both Gulf Arab and Chinese banking sources in Hong Kong, may help to explain the sudden rise in gold prices, but it also augurs an extraordinary transition from dollar markets within nine years.
end quoted

More at: ... 98175.html


NEW YORK (MarketWatch) -- Gold finished at a new record closing level on Tuesday, after earlier hitting a record intra-day high of $1,045 an ounce, as the dollar slumped on a report suggesting the end of dollar-based oil trading and Australia hiked interest rates. Gold for December delivery gained $21.90, or 2.2%, to end at $1,039.70 an ounce, a new record closing level. It earlier reached a high of $1,045.0 an ounce, topping the previous record of $1,033.90 in March 2008

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from: ... 2009-10-06

Author:  Dex [ Tue Oct 06, 2009 5:55 pm ]
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Cross posting:

Subject: Woman Meets 14 Extraterrestrials.
Sept. 30, 2009.

This is from a UFO investigation group in Mexico.


The Journal of Hispanic Ufology

September 28, 2009

Source: Popular On-Line

Date: 09.28.09

Argentina: Woman Visited by 14 "Extraterrestrials"

The event occurred at a house in Florencio Varela and
the case promises to have worldwide repercussions.
They were fourteen aliens in total. Suddenly, in the
middle of the night, they were surrounding the bed she
shared with her husband and small daughter. They looked
at her silently, and at no moment did she feel fear.
She wanted to wake up her husband, to have him witness
what was occurring before her very eyes, but the
Vistors advised her telepathically that he would remain
asleep, as he was still not yet ready. Then, the beings
revealed all of their secrets to her during a 40 minute
time period. This is a "contact" experience between a
young woman from the town of Florencio Varela and a
group of aliens - a case whose mysterious elements have
the research community on tenterhooks, and promises to
become known worldwide.

The entire episode forms part of an impressive
investigation undertaken by the renowned founders of
Grupo OVNI - Jorge Marron and Daniel Valverdi - who
managed to secure an interview last week with the young
woman, 23, who lives in a house in Florencio Varela
along with her husband and child. "The case is
currently under investigation and the analyses have not
yet been completed. We are working with a
multi-disciplinary team of experts who have contributed
their manpower to unravel the case. As we can tell
right now, it is 90% true," Valverdi told Expedientes

"Karina" is the name of the protagonist, and the
story is truly enthralling. Among other revelations,
she said that the aliens visit our planet on six-month
rotations, and are replaced by a new group. They also
explained that the circles and shapes that appear on
the fields are signals they employ among themselves,
and finally explained that there are dozens of
civilizations from other planets that come down and
interact on Earth to study it (and surely to study us).

"I never had an experience of this sort. It happened
two and a half months ago. We were in bed - my husband,
my baby and me. They were asleep and I was trying to
fall asleep. Suddenly I felt lights, and when I opened
my eyes there was nothing there. I closed my eyes
again, and the same thing happened. Like a flash of
light. I opened my eyes, but all I could see was the
[pilot light] on the stove," explained Karina, on audio
recordings broadcast on the Codigo OVNI radio show (FM
Apuntes, Mondays, 22:00 hrs.)

"The fourth time that this happened, I felt it
closer. I opened my eyes and saw the beings standing
beside me. I was lying between my husband and my
daughter. I uncovered myself and sat up. They were
around the bed, fourteen of them, all of them short
except for one: this last one was beside my husband,
staring at him fixedly. The small ones were all around,
and measured 1.30 meters or so. They were slightly
taller than my bed's sommier, which is rather tall,"
said the young woman.

In her description of the events to researches Marron
and Valverdi, the witness explained that she tried to
wake her husband, but was unable to do so.
"I even dug my nails into him, but nothing. The baby
was on the other side, on her stomach, but neither of
them reacted. At that time, one of the beings told me
not to wake up my husband, because he was not ready. I
realize that they spoke to me telepathically, and I
could answer them in the same way," Karina explained.

They were practically alike. The only difference was
the height of one of their number. They were skinny,
with long necks and small heads. Their eyes were black,
like almonds, slanted, and their mouths were also
small. They had little wrinkles on their face and the
head was oval. They had shoulders; their fingers were
long and had no nails," described the woman, who was
standing beside a group of aliens who touched her hair,
the palms of her hands and lifted one of her arms."

"Five of them were on the left, four facing me and
five on the right side of the bed. I was the only one
who wasn't paralyzed. We communicated for some 40
minutes, mouths closed. That is to say, I spoke by my
mouth didn't move. I managed to touch one of the little
ones, and he touched my face. I just felt the need to
touch him, and in fact I felt peaceful in their
I never had the impression that they could harm my
daughter or any one of us," Karina insists.

"Suddenly he made a movement (sic)," said the
witness. "He touched me with two fingers, and finally
brushed a finger along my forehead. They told me they
had come to give me answers about a black book (the
Bible) and that what I was thinking was in fact true.
When I asked them a question, they told me everything,
with details."

In her conversation with the researchers, Karina
stated "the tall one was looking at my husband all the
time. His head was slightly smaller than the others,
because the small ones had rather larger heads. It felt
like touching a baby's skin - they had little wrinkles,
but I couldn't feel them when I touched one of them.
The skin was cold and the color was odd, neither white
nor gray. They had a skin tone that doesn't exist

(Translation (c) 2009, S. Corrales, IHU. Special
thanks to Guillermo Gimenez, Planeta UFO, and Jorge
Marrn and Daniel Valverdi, Grupo OVNI)

John Winston.

Author:  Dondep [ Tue Oct 06, 2009 6:02 pm ]
Post subject:  Death of the Dollar Continues

recall, the operative phrase in that article (which I read in the Huffington Post earlier today, only to find it had been copied from The Independent) is the NINE YEAR time-frame. This is to be completed by 2018, making it supposedly easier going down. However, that article was superceded by early this evening by this one, showing just what a shell game this all is:

LONDON — The dollar fell Tuesday towards year lows against the euro and the yen after a report that Arab states and other countries were contemplating an end to the U.S. currency's role in the pricing oil.

The selling was stoked by an article in Britain's "Independent" newspaper that said secret meetings were taking place between Arab states, China, Russia, Japan and France, to end dollar dealings for oil and moving instead to a basket of currencies, including the euro, the yen and the Chinese yuan.

Officials in several of the countries either denied talks or said they had no knowledge.

But the denials did not stop the dollar selloff. By late afternoon London time, the dollar was down 0.8 percent at 88.80, while the euro was up by 0.7 percent to $1.4748.

Further sustained falls could see the dollar fall below its multi-year low of 87.11 yen, and the euro break above its two-year high of $1.4842, achieved last month.

Kuwait's oil minister, Sheik Ahmed Al Abdullah Al Sabah, said there have been no talks on the topic among Gulf oil ministers. "At our level, no," he said. "I didn't even dream about it."

And the head of the United Arab Emirates' central bank, Sultan Nasser al-Suweidi, said the Gulf nation has no plans to stop pricing oil in dollars. "There has been no meeting ... whatsoever," he told The Associated Press, adding that the dollar "will continue as the price for oil."

The report fed existing market skepticism about the U.S. currency in favor of the euro and the yen as the dollar's future as the world's reserve currency continues to be openly discussed.

Last week, figures from the International Monetary Fund showed that the dollar's share of total reserves has fallen to its lowest level since 1995. Meanwhile, Robert Zoellick, a former U.S. trade representative who now heads the World Bank, warned that the currency's status as the world's leading reserve currency should not be taken for granted.

"Some stories will run and run and this morning's report regarding a possible replacement of the dollar as the exchange currency for oil is another chapter in the plot against the dollar as the world's most dominant reserve currency," said Jane Foley, research director at

The dollar also suffered against the euro from a decision by the Australian central bank to raise interest rates – taken by markets as a sign recovery may be taking hold. New confidence reduces the dollar's role as a safe haven in times of crisis.

Dollar worries are in part based on much larger U.S. budget deficits and expansive monetary policy at the Federal Reserve, including rock-bottom interest rates and expansion of the money supply. Those are all policies that can undermine a country's currency.

The dollar's role as a reserve and pricing currency supports its value because it obliges governments and companies to hold or obtain dollars.

Bank of New York Mellon currency strategist Neil Mellor said the notion that Gulf states may look to reduce their dependence on the dollar is "potentially very significant indeed," particularly as they share the dilemma with China over the value of their dollar holdings. Any move that undermines the dollars' value would reduce the value of those extensive holdings.

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