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The Golden Thread, Volume 3.6 2007
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 The Golden Thread, Volume 3.6 2007
Welcome to the continuation of the Golden Thread, Volume 2007 3.6 All are welcome so long as the Golden Rule is observed among the participants.
This is the search for the 'truth' and Disclosure, that all men (and women, and children) that so desire learn the full and examined truth of the 'extraterrestrial reality' as it is known now and will be known in the future.
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Shady Groves
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Humor break:
Newsflash! A reincarnated Winston Churchill was spoted on the streets of London 2007!
We shall defend our island, whatever the cost may be, we shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender.
Winston Churchill
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Shady Groves
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Dex
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Shady Groves
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To all you hard working Majic employees on duty tonight peeking into this forum, violating our civil rights with diverted emails and hacking technology.
To you Dan Burisch sitting in your office with those 'security' cams over your shoulder monitoring your every movement.
To all of you poor souls in Majestic that believe yourself as our defenders while you trample out on our god given rights.
A song with one word.. A word no matter how many degrees or metals you've earned in military duty. One word You will NEvER understand nor experience as long as you remain in Majestic and within the shackles there of.
A song to you, a song about one word.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=padFWnVac8Y
Leave the Majestic and Run for it!. you owe no allegiances to a organization that strips others of their rights to this word. Such an organizations existence is contrary to the will god an against everything this nation was founded upon.
Shady
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Fri Jun 01, 2007 7:10 pm |
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Shady Groves
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Fri Jun 01, 2007 7:32 pm |
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Dondep
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 Luke Isn't Warm, He's Downright Cold!
_________________ "We seek a free flow of information... we are not afraid to entrust the American people with unpleasant facts, foreign ideas, alien philosophies, and competitive values. For a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people."-John F. Kennedy, Feb. 26th, 1962.
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Fri Jun 01, 2007 11:23 pm |
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UncleJohn
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 Hey, listen to me, please
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Sat Jun 02, 2007 5:54 am |
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Dondep
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 Oui, Oui, bonhomie!
It does two things, UJ. First: It maintains interest in the 'drama' when discussions otherwise left unspoken in public (as one would do in polite company) take place on the 'forum'. However, it's not all that cynical of a ploy, because there is then a public trail of whispered commands, summary dismissals, portents of policy, etc. taking place that would inhibit any kind of violent reprisals for Dan's "blabbing". There are two sides to that coin.
The second thing it does is 'validate' Dan's 'favored son of the secret societies' reputation; where else would you hear of a 'Concordat'? A 'Bout de Papier'? Here's what "bout de papier" refers to, following a swift googling:
Foreign Office Notes Lord Vaizey asked her Majesty's Government:
Whether they will provide a translation into English of the expressions bout de papier and aide-memoire, frequently used by the Foreign and Commonwealth Office and cited in the Franks Report, and tell the House the difference, if any, between the two.
Lord Belstead: When a communication is made orally to the representative of another Government, it is sometimes advisable to hand over a written account of the points made or questions asked. The most formal way is to leave a note verbale (third person note). A less formal way is the aide-memoire (also known as a memoire or memorandum). It is written in the third person and is dated, but it has no opening or closing courtesies, address, signature or official stamp. A method suitable for leaving a record of purely factual material is the "piece of paper" (bout de papier), typed on unheaded paper with no courtesies, date, signature or official stamp.
In other words, Dan is making it a point to summarily dismiss the request of a former pooh-bah of Majestic/CotM to 'talk'. He's still chafing, too, under the constant scrutiny of his (former?) superiors. Doesn't seem like they will EVER leave him alone.
Which continues to prove my point, day after day.
_________________ "We seek a free flow of information... we are not afraid to entrust the American people with unpleasant facts, foreign ideas, alien philosophies, and competitive values. For a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people."-John F. Kennedy, Feb. 26th, 1962.
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starryeyes
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re paola -- actually DD, it was a link to the DB.info material... it might have been during the time I was hosting it on tonicvision - I can't remember right now. The point I am trying to make is that I never made any attempt to trace or track any readers IP's. I was just interested to see who was linking and talking about our legal case.
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Dondep
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 Preparation
_________________ "We seek a free flow of information... we are not afraid to entrust the American people with unpleasant facts, foreign ideas, alien philosophies, and competitive values. For a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people."-John F. Kennedy, Feb. 26th, 1962.
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Thessa
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Sun Jun 03, 2007 3:40 am |
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Dondep
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 Welcome Back, Thessa!
_________________ "We seek a free flow of information... we are not afraid to entrust the American people with unpleasant facts, foreign ideas, alien philosophies, and competitive values. For a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people."-John F. Kennedy, Feb. 26th, 1962.
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Dex
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UncleJohn
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Thessa
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“Poignant summation” is an excellent choice of words. A friend of mine sent me that delicious and so fitting little joke to me, so... no linky.
Thanks for the welcome, Dondep. And yes, I'm the same Thessa, I’m not so sure about the coming back (to post) but the truth is that I never left (the GT) either.
Thank you, UJ. Belated happy birthday to Garci Aloha. I got two birthday cakes (I made them myself LOL!) and a few precious gifts.
Much Love,
Thessa
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Sun Jun 03, 2007 11:47 pm |
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Dondep
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 Happy Birthday to Thessa
And much love right back, Thessa, not the least of which is for a belated Happy Birthday (gosh, UJ is certainly the sharp archivist, isn't he? He always seems to know these things, and I'll bet he hadn't heard from you any time recently either until your post). I just remember your rightful indignation when the self-appointed 'architect of heaven' made some blunt comment to you, and now he's the one to keep track of everybody.
I suspected that you, like at least a good handful of others that write on occasion, would either 'peek in' or 'catch up' now and again, seeing 'what's new', how different (or the same) things are over time. It's always good to hear your thoughts, and I'm glad to know you never left.
UJ, a hug to Garci from me. This Sally guest we're fostering is dangerously tugging at the heart strings, so I'll quote JAn "I know more than I can tell". More love than words can describe. And tonight is CNN anchor Anderson Cooper's birthday.
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I found this recent article that tends to confirm what we're being told elsewhere:
(from the 'mainstream media' mouthpiece The Boston Globe)
White House revises post-disaster protocol
By Charlie Savage, Globe Staff |
June 2, 2007
WASHINGTON -- The Bush administration is writing a new plan to maintain governmental control in the wake of an apocalyptic terrorist attack or overwhelming natural disaster, moving such doomsday planning for the first time from the Federal Emergency Management Agency to officials inside the White House.
The policy requires all government agencies to have clear lines of succession if top officials are killed and be prepared to operate from a new headquarters within 12 hours of a catastrophe. They must be prepared "to lead and sustain the nation during a crisis" -- a charge ranging from "providing leadership visible to the nation and the world" to "bringing to justice perpetrators of crimes or attacks."
The policy replaces a Clinton-era "continuity in government" post-disaster plan. The old plan is classified, but security specialists and administration officials said the new policy centralizes control of such planning in the White House and puts a greater emphasis on terrorism spurring the catastrophe.
Bush quietly signed the new policy on May 4. The unclassified portion of his "homeland security-national security presidential directive" -- a special kind of executive order that can be kept secret -- was also posted on the White House website on May 9, without any further announcement or press briefings.
The new policy focuses on a worst-case scenario in which a terrorist nuclear bomb explodes without warning and wipes out much of the nation's top leadership. Older plans were instead premised on a Cold War-era long-range missile attack, presuming it would be detected in enough time to evacuate the president and other top government officials.
"As a result of the asymmetric threat environment, adequate warning of potential emergencies that could pose a significant risk to the homeland might not be available, and therefore all continuity planning shall be based on the assumption that no such warning will be received," the new policy states. "Emphasis will be placed upon geographic dispersion of leadership, staff, and infrastructure in order to increase survivability and maintain uninterrupted government functions."
The unexpected arrival of the new policy has received little attention in the mainstream media, but it has prompted discussion among legal specialists, homeland security experts and Internet commentators -- including concerns that the policy may be written in such a way that makes it too easy to invoke emergency presidential powers such as martial law.
Specifically, the policy creates a new "National Continuity Coordinator" inside the White House who is charged with ensuring all executive agencies have a plan by Aug. 4 to keep functioning if their leadership perishes in an attack. The coordinator is also directed to help Congress, the Supreme Court, and state and local leaders prepare for a worst-case scenario.
The policy designates the president's top adviser for homeland security and counterterrorism -- currently Frances Townsend -- as the national continuity director. It also directs Townsend to consult National Security Adviser Stephen Hadley and Vice President Dick Cheney.
Page 2 of 2 --The public portion of the new "National Continuity Policy" contains few details about how surviving officials would invoke emergency powers, or when emergency powers should be deemed to be no longer necessary so that the elected democracy can resume. The answers to such questions may be contained in a classified appendix which has not been made public.
The unanswered questions have provoked anxiety across ideological lines. The conservative commentator Jerome Corsi , for example, wrote in a much-linked online column that the directive looked like a recipe for allowing the office of the presidency to seize "dictatorial powers" because the policy does not discuss consulting Congress about when to invoke emergency powers -- or when to turn them off.
In addition, specialists at both the Heritage Foundation, a conservative think-tank, and the American Civil Liberties Union said they have taken calls and e-mails from people who are worried about what the new policy may portend.
James Carafano , a homeland security specialist at Heritage, criticized the administration for failing to inform the public that the new policy was coming, and why it was changing.
He said the White House did not recognize that discussion of emergency governmental powers is "a very sensitive issue for a lot of people," adding that the lack of explanation is "appalling."
But White House spokesman Gordon Johndroe said that because of the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, the American public needs no explanation of such plans.
"It's well known that the vice president, MJ-2[ret.], was in a secure, undisclosed location for a period of time for continuity-of-government reasons, so these considerations are not unknown to the American people in a post-9/11 world," he said.
Some homeland security and legal specialists say that anxieties about the new plan may be exaggerated. The government has had versions of a doomsday response plan dating back to the Cold War, although this is apparently the first time the White House has made a portion of the plan public.
"Any time any leaders are talking about the destruction of our government and the disruption of traditional ideas of representative government, that is something we all have to be concerned about and it should be discussed," said Michael German , ACLU policy counsel. "And that is one reason why I appreciate that this document has been made public."
The Bush administration in general "is very secretive," he added, "so I don't think we should be entirely critical of what's in [the plan] because I think we want to encourage them to release information like this."
Nevertheless, some legal specialists say that the White House should be more specific about its worst-case scenario plans, pointing out two unanswered questions: what circumstances would trigger implementation of the plan and what legal limits the White House recognizes on its own emergency powers.
The policy broadly defines a "catastrophic emergency" -- the triggering event for the plan -- as "any incident, regardless of location, that results in extraordinary levels of mass casualties, damage, or disruption severely affecting the U.S. population, infrastructure, environment, economy, or government functions."
Sharon Bradford Franklin , the senior counsel at the Constitution Project, a bipartisan think-tank that promotes constitutional safeguards, said the policy's definition "is so broad that it raises serious concerns about when and how this might be used to authorize unchecked executive action."
But Johndroe said it was necessary for a loosely-worded definition because the goverment can't be sure what kind of emergency might arise.
"I don't think you want to have anything in the directive that would tie the president's hands from being able to implement emergency action," he said.
The policy also does not contain a direct reference to statutes in which Congress has imposed checks and balances on the president's power to impose martial law or other extraordinary measures.
For example, the policy does not explicitly acknowledge the National Emergencies Act, a post-Watergate law that gives Congress the right to override the president's determination that a national emergency still exists, activating the president's emergency powers.
The policy says that it "shall be implemented consistent with applicable law," but it does not say which laws are "applicable." Because the Bush legal team has pushed a controversial theory that the Constitution gives the president an unwritten power to disobey laws at his own discretion to protect national security, some specialists said that the vagueness of the policy is troubling.
Asked if the White House believes that the National Emergencies Act is a constitutional constraint on executive power and thus would apply, Johndroe repeated only that "Anything developed would be consistent with all applicable laws." {TRANSLATION: We, The Imperial White House, Will Tell You When We Think We're Breaking The Law.}
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Now, look at this from a week before, on May 20th:
Bush has granted himself extraordinary, dictatorial powers to deal with a variety of "potential emergencies" recently to maintain the "continuity of government ". Is he still anticipating being able to remain in charge as the result of panic and governmental chaos as a result of severe Earth Changes? Is the Bush crowd also anticipating a North American rip to save themselves and keep them in power? [and from another] Bush makes power grab [May 23] http://www.worldnetdaily.com/ President Bush, without so much as issuing a press statement, on May 9 signed a directive that granted near dictatorial powers to the office of the president in the event of a national emergency declared by the president. The "National Security and Homeland Security Presidential Directive," with the dual designation of NSPD-51, as a National Security Presidential Directive, and HSPD-20, as a Homeland Security Presidential Directive, establishes under the office of president a new National Continuity Coordinator. That job, as the document describes, is to make plans for "National Essential Functions" of all federal, state, local, territorial, and tribal governments, as well as private sector organizations to continue functioning under the president's directives in the event of a national emergency. [and from another] The original is on the White House website at http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases ... 09-12.html
We warned that Bush would try to place himself into perpetual dictatorship, by declaring Martial Law on the flimsiest of excuses. We warned in March 2006 that he would likely do so, and be ignored. We stated that after the Democrats took Congress, foiling the voter fraud Rove and company had arranged, that Bush tried to declare Martial Law as a result, and was ignored. What is it about this particular Executive Order that is different, or that Bush hopes will make a difference? There are dozens of Executive Orders written even during the Reagan era that allow FEMA to take over the nation, directing the Military and all agencies, in the event of a catastrophe declared by the President. Doesn't this suffice? The difference is that this gives power to FEMA, or to its head, Homeland Security, but not directly to Bush. Increasingly isolated and ignored, with orders to the Military ignored so that the public stance the White House must take is altered to avoid having the public realize that he is not in control anymore as Commander in Chief, he is raising himself above all that on paper. This hardly changes anything, as all federal control stemming from the White House as Executive Branch head will be ignored when the Earth changes accelerate. This administration is hated, deeply, by all just under a thinly spread layer at the top. This top is associated with the hated administration, and thus will be ignored. Bush attempts to pull power around him like a snug blanket, a security blanket, but the word is already out in the field as to how things are now really functioning. When the time comes, he will find that security blanket, which he though so snug and firm, is paper, shredding in the rain storms that will pelt the nation, ripped to pieces by the earthquakes that will shatter the nation's infrastruction, and blown away by the countering orders given by commanders, both local and state and federal, who are respected.
_________________ "We seek a free flow of information... we are not afraid to entrust the American people with unpleasant facts, foreign ideas, alien philosophies, and competitive values. For a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people."-John F. Kennedy, Feb. 26th, 1962.
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Mon Jun 04, 2007 1:11 am |
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Thessa
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No doubt UJ is sharp, sometimes even just tooo sharp, and I mean that also about that episode you’re referring to, Dondep. Just not the way most interpreted it. And to set the record straight, in the inside, where it counts, I was never upset about UJ, maybe exasperated a bit sometimes, but never upset. I know the sentiment is mutual.
Cheers to all!
Much Love, AllWays
Thessa
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Mon Jun 04, 2007 3:11 am |
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UncleJohn
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 tooo sharp?
Uncle John here: I don't know the future. I wonder about the future. I hear a lot about the catastrophe that Dondep keeps posting about. A lot of people all over the world speak of this.
I see another future for humanity. Perhaps one the dan has seen. One that something wonderful happens.
If we used computers to keep track of most things on our planet, we could end needless human suffering. We could be a model for the rest of the universe. We could turn earth into a paradise.
In order for this to work, we would have to get rid of the evil cartel that runs the earth. Most likely this cartel is directed and controlled by some evil group of ET's.
The thing that I find most amazing about humans is that besides myself, there doesn't seem anyone willing to take on this evil cartel. Oh yes, there are the David Icke, the Jeff Rense, the Alex Jones, the Jim Marrs and others who point out this evil cartel, but as far as I know, they don't want to try and toss this evil cartel themselves. I wonder how many of us would it take to get rid of this evil cartel? The only weapon that I can use alone is ridicule.
I wish that some outside ET group would toss this evil cartel and Alex Collier talked about this happening, but the date he gave and came and went.
I read somewhere the other day that the ONI is fighting this evil cartel, but why do it in secrecy?
I wish I could wake up some other persons to this necessity. Everybody seems to be just interested in their own little gig.
One thing for sure, as long as I have life, I will continue calling for the fight and continue to smile while I'm doing it. Garci Aloha loves her new pool.
As Jerry Garcia use to sing, "One way or another, this darkness got to give."
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Mon Jun 04, 2007 7:29 am |
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digorius
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UJ,
Sign me up as someone who would be willing to take on this evil cartel.
I would love to play a part in their departure from power. I have thought about how we could do such a thing for years. I am still at a loss as to how one would do it.
What can we do as a team?
love and peace
d
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starryeyes
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Dondep
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 Toynbee Sez 'Get Ready'
_________________ "We seek a free flow of information... we are not afraid to entrust the American people with unpleasant facts, foreign ideas, alien philosophies, and competitive values. For a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people."-John F. Kennedy, Feb. 26th, 1962.
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UncleJohn
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 Re: Toynbee Sez 'Get Ready'
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Shady Groves
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